Drew Hanson

Tim Fulton 0:09Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Confluence Cast presented by Columbus Underground. We are a weekly Columbus-centric podcast focusing on the civics, lifestyle, entertainment, and people of our city. I'm your host, Tim Fulton. This week I sat down with Drew Hanson, former WNCI DJ and self-proclaimed D-list celebrity, for a freewheeling conversation about his experience in Columbus media, why he decided to leave Columbus, and why ultimately he came back. You can get more information on what we discussed today in the show notes for this episode at theconfluencecast.com. Also, The Confluence Cast is on Patreon. Find out how to support this podcast on our website, theconfluencecast.com, or at patreon.com/confluence. The Confluence Cast is sponsored by Little Rock Bar. Little Rock Bar is located at 944 North Fourth Street in Italian Village. With 30 craft beers on tap, Little Rock Bar has happy hour from 4:00 to 7:00 PM every day. Every Tuesday is $3 draft beers all night while you enjoy Rock Your Cock Off Karaoke. Wednesdays is Everybody's a Comedian, hosted by Travis Hawitcher. It's like trivia, but you prove your snark instead of smarts. Info, hours, and upcoming events at littlerockbar.net. Everyone's night should have a little rock. Enjoy the interview. Sitting down here with Drew Hanson, entertainer, DJ, actor, former professional wrestler.

Drew Hanson 1:50Yeah.

Tim Fulton 1:50Semi-professional wrestler.

Drew Hanson 1:52Well, the semi- if you're a semi-professional wrestler you're a legit college athlete.

Tim Fulton 1:56Well, so you're- In my head the definition of professional is getting paid sometimes.

Drew Hanson 2:01Yeah. Well, that happened occasionally.

Tim Fulton 2:03Right.

Drew Hanson 2:03During-

Tim Fulton 2:03When you won

Drew Hanson 2:04... but not, when... Oh, no, no, no. It was just, you know, how the house did.

Tim Fulton 2:08Gotcha.

Drew Hanson 2:09I don't know if you know this or not, but wrestling is a little predetermined.

Tim Fulton 2:13Uh, oh.

Drew Hanson 2:13I'm not sure if you had heard that.

Tim Fulton 2:15Well, I did watch-

Drew Hanson 2:16I didn't know how, I mean, we are-

Tim Fulton 2:16... some of Raw 25, and you're right, it did seem staged.

Drew Hanson 2:19It did, it did. It was weird how the commercial breaks happened exactly when no action was happening in the ring, and it was just very odd how that happened.

Tim Fulton 2:27I imagine most people in this audience, if I know my audience, will know you from your time at WNCI. You were there for-

Drew Hanson 2:36I don't know, this is Columbus Underground.

Tim Fulton 2:37Well-

Drew Hanson 2:38That's hardly underground.

Tim Fulton 2:39Yeah, what, the demographic, at least for podcast listening and for the format of this podcast skew a bit older.

Drew Hanson 2:46Yeah.

Tim Fulton 2:46You know, this is not the, these are not the 23-year-olds that are showing up at nine- '90s night at Three Sheets every Sunday.

Drew Hanson 2:54Well-

Tim Fulton 2:54So...

Drew Hanson 2:54Well, you are... Oh, by the way, I have a '90s night on Sunday- ... they should go to, but we'll get to that.

Tim Fulton 2:59Right.

Drew Hanson 2:59But by the way, I was gonna say, if this is Columbus Underground, you're a complete farce. We're on the second floor. We're on the second floor of a building.

Tim Fulton 3:06Indeed.

Drew Hanson 3:06So the, so the truth is out there.

Tim Fulton 3:08How did you, you started when you were 19.

Drew Hanson 3:1019. Yeah. Oh, we were saying-

Tim Fulton 3:12Yeah

Drew Hanson 3:12... 'cause I had my first audition.

Tim Fulton 3:14Okay.

Drew Hanson 3:14This is back when you had to audition. Basically, the, uh, boss of the station was driving through my hometown, which is a significantly smaller place.

Tim Fulton 3:24Mm-hmm.

Drew Hanson 3:24And he was driving home from a Cleveland Indians game, he had the Indians tickets or something.

Tim Fulton 3:29Okay.

Drew Hanson 3:29So he's driving past and he hears, he, he listened, he would listen to Top 40 stations when he would drive, you know, through Ohio, 'cause he was, you know, a radio dude. He wanted to hear radio DJs.

Tim Fulton 3:38Well, he's checking out the competition, right?

Drew Hanson 3:40Well, not necessarily competition because, you know, I, I worked at, like, a 3,000-watt station, you know, at a top-

Tim Fulton 3:45Oh, okay

Drew Hanson 3:46... at a Top 40 station on the weekends. So he was listening basically for, you know, weekend people that he could maybe bring into WNCI. 'Cause WNCI kinda had a system for things. They would get, you know, a weekend person. If that person did good on the weekends they would, uh, either get a specialty show like I did or-

Tim Fulton 4:03Okay

Drew Hanson 4:03... or they would get, you know, an overnight shift-

Tim Fulton 4:06Okay

Drew Hanson 4:06... during the week. So you'd be a-

Tim Fulton 4:07Similar to what you see on, like, a local television station.

Drew Hanson 4:10Yeah, yeah.

Tim Fulton 4:11Or even-

Drew Hanson 4:11Very similar, actually

Tim Fulton 4:12... like CNN. Yeah.

Drew Hanson 4:13I would argue that that's probably the same exact thing.

Tim Fulton 4:15Okay.

Drew Hanson 4:16But yeah, you'd move up kinda that way. But the thing with WNCI, in their heyday they were such a great station that nobody would wanna leave.

Tim Fulton 4:23Okay.

Drew Hanson 4:24So part-timers would come through and they would build up their resume or they would build up their experience or, you know, whatever, and then they would send it out to places and then they would basically... You know, I was at WNCI, which was, like, this major thing-

Tim Fulton 4:35Mm-hmm

Drew Hanson 4:35... to have, you know, on your... And Columbus never r- you know, maybe they did- ... they realized WNCI was a great local station, but to the country WNCI used to be-

Tim Fulton 4:43It was a benchmark

Drew Hanson 4:44... you know, where every DJ wanted to end up going, where, where every jock in the country wanted to be.

Tim Fulton 4:48Okay.

Drew Hanson 4:49Not only for the company, because it was a great company, Nationwide Ins- Insurance.

Tim Fulton 4:52Right.

Drew Hanson 4:53But it was, you know, it had a reputation of just, they were never number... They were the New York, uh, or the, I'm sorry, the New England Patriots of-

Tim Fulton 4:59Okay

Drew Hanson 5:00... of radio.

Tim Fulton 5:01Okay.

Drew Hanson 5:01I mean, and that was the same reason a lot of people hated them, loved them, whatever.

Tim Fulton 5:04Right.

Drew Hanson 5:04But, you know, they, I had to audition. The first time they put me on an overnight shift with Dave Sharp, who, you know, old time radio people-

Tim Fulton 5:12Mm-hmm

Drew Hanson 5:12... will remember that name 'cause he was on overnights. A- and the same thing I just said, he couldn't ever move past overnights, and he knew he never would, so he eventually got sick of it and moved on.

Tim Fulton 5:21Okay.

Drew Hanson 5:22So, um, Dancer actually was the first person to shake things up there.

Tim Fulton 5:26Mark Dancer, right.

Drew Hanson 5:26He probably... Yeah, Mark Dancer, in probably 20 years-

Tim Fulton 5:30Okay

Drew Hanson 5:30... I mean, to, to really shake things up there. So I, you know, had my first audition. I'm kind of going Tarantino-style and going forward and backwards. But, uh, I had my audition, the first one- They didn't contact me for two and a half, three months.

Tim Fulton 5:43Okay.

Drew Hanson 5:43I didn't, I didn't think, I did it.

Tim Fulton 5:45You were like, "I didn't get it."

Drew Hanson 5:45Yeah, I didn't get it. They said, "Well, we had some changes here, you know, we lost this person here and this person here."

Tim Fulton 5:50Right.

Drew Hanson 5:50"And we were basically just giving you a shot for future what we would have," 'cause they didn't tell you anything.

Tim Fulton 5:55Right.

Drew Hanson 5:56So then, you know, when I did have a spot, I started, you know, I got pulled in, I was doing overnights and everything else, and it was so anticlimactic because this was this powerhouse of a radio station, but it was at a time period that they were really terrible.

Tim Fulton 6:08Okay.

Drew Hanson 6:08'Cause they were trying to compete with Sunny 95, so they changed it to, like, "We're the more variety."

Tim Fulton 6:14Okay.

Drew Hanson 6:15"We're the, we're the station playing your adult favorites without the kiddie rap," and all that stuff. And what really made them hot was, you know, "New on WNCI-

Tim Fulton 6:24Right

Drew Hanson 6:24... the, the world premiere of Kid Rock," or, you know, not Kid Rock at the time, but-

Tim Fulton 6:28Right

Drew Hanson 6:28... you know, I'm thinking, I remember WNCI as a kid in junior high, and they had the world premiere of, uh, Parents Just Don't Understand.

Tim Fulton 6:34Okay.

Drew Hanson 6:35The DJ Jazzy Jeff song.

Tim Fulton 6:36Right.

Drew Hanson 6:36And it was, and first of all, it was like, "Who the hell's W- Will Smith and DJ Jazzy Jeff?"

Tim Fulton 6:41Right.

Drew Hanson 6:41'Cause you'd never heard of them do anything before, and the song was such a banger, like right out of the box, that I'm like, "WNCI breaks these awesome, cool, new rap songs," which was like the beginning of rap. Not, you know, Sugarhill Gang was kinda the beginning of rap, but-

Tim Fulton 6:56Right

Drew Hanson 6:56... but, like, you know, Will Smith was-

Tim Fulton 6:57But, you know, we're, we're gonna hear that on the radio, right?

Drew Hanson 6:58You were not gonna... This is the beginning of rap that you would hear, you know, on your, on your radio station, which was unheard of at the time.

Tim Fulton 7:05Right.

Drew Hanson 7:05So this was, you know, the reputation WNCI had. So I have my second audition, and I go back and I do that, and then that's when they gave me the third one, which was an actual, like, an hour-

Tim Fulton 7:15Okay

Drew Hanson 7:15... midday, midday with Andy Clark.

Tim Fulton 7:17Okay.

Drew Hanson 7:17Which basically, Andy just basically goes, "Hey, man, welcome to the team." I go, "Uh, I don't think so." He goes-

Tim Fulton 7:21I don't, I'm not hired yet.

Drew Hanson 7:22I'm not hired yet. He goes, "No, if you're doing the hour midday, you're, you're hired."

Tim Fulton 7:25Right.

Drew Hanson 7:25He said, "They, they-"

Tim Fulton 7:26They're just making sure that you're not gonna break FCC vio- you know, regulations, and, and that everything's gonna be okay.

Drew Hanson 7:32Yeah, that everything-

Tim Fulton 7:32Right

Drew Hanson 7:32... was gonna be cool, and, and that I wasn't, you know, uh, no, they, they wanted me to see the light of day-

Tim Fulton 7:37Right

Drew Hanson 7:38... and see people and meet people and shake hands with people and this is the sales, introduce me to people. And kinda more or less 'cause they were such a tight-knit, you know, y- a group-

Tim Fulton 7:46Okay

Drew Hanson 7:47... they, they kinda went yay or nay on, on whoever.

Tim Fulton 7:49Right.

Drew Hanson 7:49And I was the kid. I was, you know, I was the youngest kid, maybe until the kid that succeeded me, actually.

Tim Fulton 7:56Okay.

Drew Hanson 7:56Um, I was probably the youngest kid in the history of that station to, to kinda be in the prom- in the spots that I had.

Tim Fulton 8:01And so how long were you there?

Drew Hanson 8:03I was there in stints.

Tim Fulton 8:04Okay.

Drew Hanson 8:04The first stint was from '95 until 2001.

Tim Fulton 8:09Okay.

Drew Hanson 8:10So that was the biggest-

Tim Fulton 8:11Well, that's not a small s- I mean, that's six years, right?

Drew Hanson 8:13No. No. Yeah, but that was the, the '90s show that I did, and then that got me the full-time spot when Dancer finally moved on.

Tim Fulton 8:20Okay.

Drew Hanson 8:20And I don't say that like, you know, finally. If you're working there, that's extremely frustrating. Nobody ever leaves.

Tim Fulton 8:25Right.

Drew Hanson 8:25You know, they, man, every time a new DJ would come and build a house, I'd be like, "Ah, that's another three years I'm not getting-"

Tim Fulton 8:30Well, and my experience in the space is with formerly CD101 and now CD102.5, I was an intern in actually high school and then also in college, and a lot of those folks are still there.

Drew Hanson 8:43Yeah, yeah.

Tim Fulton 8:43You know? Or they came on almost immediately after I was done. You know, they don't leave.

Drew Hanson 8:49No.

Tim Fulton 8:50So what don't... You know, I think people have this perception of what it's like to work in that field, radio specifically.

Drew Hanson 8:58Mm-hmm.

Tim Fulton 8:58We'll get to the, the, you know, the DJ and the, and the wedding gigs and the, and the bar gigs and the-

Drew Hanson 9:03Two vastly different animals.

Tim Fulton 9:05Right. We'll get to that-

Drew Hanson 9:06Vastly different

Tim Fulton 9:06... we'll get to that in a minute, but talk about, you know, at least from the folks that I've talked about, you know, the pay's not great.

Drew Hanson 9:13Well, it, it goes like everything else. Like, you know, just a, just like the stint in wrestling, the higher up the card you are, the better the pay is.

Tim Fulton 9:20Got it. Okay.

Drew Hanson 9:21So I was, I, I got about, mm, midway to about a th- you know, I was like the highest you can get but not be a morning show or an afternoon show.

Tim Fulton 9:32Okay.

Drew Hanson 9:32So-

Tim Fulton 9:32Well, and there's also sort of this additional income part of it, too, right?

Drew Hanson 9:36Yeah.

Tim Fulton 9:36Like, you're a personality that the sales staff can then hire out to go to a cellphone store opening, to go DJ-

Drew Hanson 9:43Which would be a-

Tim Fulton 9:44... DJ at a bar

Drew Hanson 9:44... large percentage of your cash.

Tim Fulton 9:46Right.

Drew Hanson 9:47Like, a l- the bulk of it sometimes.

Tim Fulton 9:49Okay. 'Cause you're basically paid a pretty menial hourly, and then theoretically you become a personality that they can then hire out, right?

Drew Hanson 9:57Yeah, yeah.

Tim Fulton 9:57Okay.

Drew Hanson 9:57I, I always looked at it like the, the actual doing the air shift, that's like an actor that goes onto a talk show.

Tim Fulton 10:07Okay.

Drew Hanson 10:07Like, where, where they're pr-

Tim Fulton 10:08Basically you're promoting yourself

Drew Hanson 10:09... promoting, promoting a movie or promoting a product, you know, that-

Tim Fulton 10:12You're not getting paid per se for that.

Drew Hanson 10:14Right, yeah.

Tim Fulton 10:14Right.

Drew Hanson 10:15Like Bradley Cooper, oh, wow, why am I seeing Bradley Cooper on Letterman tonight? Does he wanna tell me about this wonderful trip he took to Aruba?

Tim Fulton 10:21No.

Drew Hanson 10:21Because it's a great story. I can't believe he got on this talk show just to tell me, oh, hang on, the first commercial break when they go to commercial after his appearance is coming soon, The Hangover 6.

Tim Fulton 10:30Right.

Drew Hanson 10:31You know, like, so I'm going, "Oh, there's a science and a business to all this." So the radio really, in essence to me, as much as it, it is really what the job, the whole reason you are able to do side projects and be put in appearances or have any sort of notoriety is the radio.

Tim Fulton 10:46Right.

Drew Hanson 10:46But in essence, the radio is a commercial.

Tim Fulton 10:49Okay.

Drew Hanson 10:49I, I, now this is my personal philosophy. This is obviously not anyone's personal philosophy-

Tim Fulton 10:54Right

Drew Hanson 10:54... that is a lifer in radio. They are, they, they have a love of tran-

Tim Fulton 10:59They do

Drew Hanson 10:59... transmission.

Tim Fulton 11:00Okay.

Drew Hanson 11:00I have love of transmission and-

Tim Fulton 11:01And do you?

Drew Hanson 11:02Uh, somewhat.

Tim Fulton 11:03Okay.

Drew Hanson 11:04Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tim Fulton 11:04It's cool.

Drew Hanson 11:05Yeah, it is. It's cool. I like it. I mean, I never got into the business because I was sitting in shop class one day learning about the finer arts of a signal being transferred from one place to another.

Tim Fulton 11:17You don't have an amateur radio license.

Drew Hanson 11:19I do.

Tim Fulton 11:20Oh, you do?

Drew Hanson 11:21Oh, wait a minute. Is that the-

Tim Fulton 11:22That's like the-

Drew Hanson 11:22Maybe I was an amateur-

Tim Fulton 11:23That's like-

Drew Hanson 11:24... when I got my radio

Tim Fulton 11:24... that's like the hobbyist, that's not like being an engineer at a station.

Drew Hanson 11:28Okay.

Tim Fulton 11:28That's like the hobbyist Morse code, shortwave radio, volunteering at, like, marathons to communicate with the emergency responders.

Drew Hanson 11:36I remember-

Tim Fulton 11:37That's what amateur radio-

Drew Hanson 11:38Okay, I-

Tim Fulton 11:38My father did amateur radio, so that was-

Drew Hanson 11:40Well, I didn't get that, then.

Tim Fulton 11:41Okay.

Drew Hanson 11:41I got, I got my FCC license-

Tim Fulton 11:43Right

Drew Hanson 11:43... when I was an amateur.

Tim Fulton 11:44G- right. That's the-

Drew Hanson 11:44When I was, like, 15. I remember I had a math test and I had my FCC license test on the same day.

Tim Fulton 11:49Okay.

Drew Hanson 11:50And one-

Tim Fulton 11:50So you knew you wanted to do this

Drew Hanson 11:51... one of those I failed at. Oh, I knew, yeah. Oh, well-

Tim Fulton 11:53Where'd you grow up?

Drew Hanson 11:54... I knew I wanted to be in entertainment, period.

Tim Fulton 11:56Okay.

Drew Hanson 11:56That was, I mean- The first, I vividly remember when I went, "Yep, that. That's me. That's what I'm doing."

Tim Fulton 12:03Where'd you grow up?

Drew Hanson 12:04I grew up in Marion.

Tim Fulton 12:06Okay. And so Columbus was always sort of-

Drew Hanson 12:09Columbus was the big city

Tim Fulton 12:10... was the big city-

Drew Hanson 12:11Oh, yeah

Tim Fulton 12:11... right by. Okay.

Drew Hanson 12:12Yeah. Columbus was a b- a big old city.

Tim Fulton 12:14And so is, and I'm just curious about this, 'cause the, the folks that I've talked to that have worked in, primarily in television, at least on a, on a local scale, they always have sort of this risk of, is my contract gonna get renewed? Is, you know, is, are the higher-ups gonna like me?

Drew Hanson 12:32Yeah.

Tim Fulton 12:32At least WNCI at the time was not that way. It was ver- 'Cause what you're saying is, those folks who, you know, they got their shift, and they kinda didn't leave.

Drew Hanson 12:41No, not for a long time. Now-

Tim Fulton 12:42Okay

Drew Hanson 12:42... when, when Nationwide sold-

Tim Fulton 12:44Right

Drew Hanson 12:44... the, people were turning over like crazy.

Tim Fulton 12:46To, and was that because of the higher-ups? Clear Channel was like, "We're gonna find, you know, who's the best fit for this so that we can get our rankings up"?

Drew Hanson 12:54It was, it was weird. I have heard so many stories from program directors' point of view of the first year-

Tim Fulton 13:01Mm-hmm

Drew Hanson 13:01... of Clear Channel really being in charge.

Tim Fulton 13:04Okay.

Drew Hanson 13:04Now, at this point, I'm clueless, 'cause nothing's changing as far as I'm concerned. My paycheck is the exact same. Everything's, nothing has changed with me. I-

Tim Fulton 13:11But you're on-air talent. You're not, like, the program director.

Drew Hanson 13:14Right.

Tim Fulton 13:14Okay.

Drew Hanson 13:14I'm not having to really see any major changes with this.

Tim Fulton 13:18Okay.

Drew Hanson 13:18Where the changes I started seeing were when people started, in higher up positions, leaving.

Tim Fulton 13:24Okay.

Drew Hanson 13:24And I'm going, "Why are these people leaving?" And I'm not connecting the dots, that they're doing that clean, pretty, you know, "I'm moving on to future endeavors," and, you know, whatever, where you never really know who was fired and who is really actually leaving.

Tim Fulton 13:37Or who's pissed off and l-

Drew Hanson 13:38Who's pissed off, and yeah. I mean-

Tim Fulton 13:40Or who truly got a better job, right.

Drew Hanson 13:41Right, exactly.

Tim Fulton 13:42Okay.

Drew Hanson 13:42So, and I, and if we get to this, I've never been one of those people that have one ... It's always very clear what, what happened with me-

Tim Fulton 13:49Okay

Drew Hanson 13:49... whenever something like this

Tim Fulton 13:50Okay.

Drew Hanson 13:51If, if, if it gets that far and we get to that kind of part where it goes-

Tim Fulton 13:53I'm excited to hear that story now.

Drew Hanson 13:55Yeah, well, oh, boy. But it's, uh, I, I've done some questionable things in the name of networking and character.

Tim Fulton 14:01Okay.

Drew Hanson 14:01But, uh, yeah.

Tim Fulton 14:03So it was weird, that first y- you know, that-

Drew Hanson 14:04The first year-

Tim Fulton 14:05... there's transitional time

Drew Hanson 14:06... that it was Clear Channel, a- again, I, I didn't start noticing anything really different until people that were higher-ups that, you know, I knew and respected and, and whatever would go to work for other companies.

Tim Fulton 14:18Mm-hmm.

Drew Hanson 14:19And none of them moved sideways. None of them went to another Clear Channel company.

Tim Fulton 14:23Okay.

Drew Hanson 14:23Everybody had went to someplace else, and the biggest was Dave Robbins-

Tim Fulton 14:26Okay

Drew Hanson 14:26... who was the WNCI, you know, mega, you know, one of, one of the big reasons that they had the reputation was he was one of the guys that made WNCI just the giant.

Tim Fulton 14:36Was he, like, the station manager or-

Drew Hanson 14:37He was the, he w- literally went through the ranks. Like, he was a jock-

Tim Fulton 14:42Okay

Drew Hanson 14:42... and then he was the program director. Then he was the general manager of the radio station.

Tim Fulton 14:46Okay.

Drew Hanson 14:47Like, and then he left the station as general manager when he coulda, I mean, e- he would've been on, he would've been partner by now, 'cause he's been partner-

Tim Fulton 14:55Okay

Drew Hanson 14:55... in radio companies ever since. He went to CBS and-

Tim Fulton 14:57But he's not gonna be at someplace like Clear Channel, where it's just this big national-

Drew Hanson 15:01He would never be at a s- yeah

Tim Fulton 15:02... right

Drew Hanson 15:02... at someplace like that. So it's, it j- it really started changing when I started seeing people, higher-ups leaving, and then I started seeing s- you know, little changes.

Tim Fulton 15:11Okay.

Drew Hanson 15:11Like, we can't do this, we can't do that, that we used to be able to do, or-

Tim Fulton 15:16Give me an example of that

Drew Hanson 15:17... uh, um, when sales became less local and they became more national-

Tim Fulton 15:23Okay

Drew Hanson 15:24... you could tell that they were steering towards a national product.

Tim Fulton 15:27Okay.

Drew Hanson 15:28So they would want us to, if we had local bar appearances-

Tim Fulton 15:32Right

Drew Hanson 15:33... we would not be able to really mention those as-

Tim Fulton 15:38Unless-

Drew Hanson 15:39... much as we were able to

Tim Fulton 15:39... unless that there was, like, a liquor brand associated with it or-

Drew Hanson 15:42Well, no, it wasn't like that. It was just e- it, it was so subtle how they tightened the nooses-

Tim Fulton 15:48Okay

Drew Hanson 15:49... because they didn't want to shake up that WNCI morale that we kind of were famous for.

Tim Fulton 15:54Okay.

Drew Hanson 15:56So-

Tim Fulton 15:56Well, they were protecting their investment to an extent.

Drew Hanson 15:57They were, yeah.

Tim Fulton 15:58Right?

Drew Hanson 15:58Yeah, yeah. They, uh, despite the fact that they were eventually gonna completely gut that place and-

Tim Fulton 16:03Okay

Drew Hanson 16:03... and do, you know, do a Clear Channel to it.

Tim Fulton 16:06Right.

Drew Hanson 16:06But, you know, and a lot of things I started seeing changing and, and, and I didn't see the writing on the wall, because when, when our show was fired, it was a complete shock to everybody.

Tim Fulton 16:16Okay.

Drew Hanson 16:16We found out about it-

Tim Fulton 16:18So when was this?

Drew Hanson 16:19This was the-

Tim Fulton 16:19This was second stint?

Drew Hanson 16:20This, this was the first stint.

Tim Fulton 16:21Okay.

Drew Hanson 16:21This is how the first stint at the station was finished, was over.

Tim Fulton 16:26So this is 2001, 2002?

Drew Hanson 16:27This was 2001.

Tim Fulton 16:28Okay.

Drew Hanson 16:28Yeah. Well, it was actually the end of 2000-

Tim Fulton 16:30Okay

Drew Hanson 16:31... almost into 2001.

Tim Fulton 16:32Okay.

Drew Hanson 16:32We w- we were set to be fired, one of those December 31st things.

Tim Fulton 16:35So how did that happen?

Drew Hanson 16:37We found out about it, 'cause the, the program director that came to the station, uh, Jimmy Steele, who's been in the Columbus market two or three times-

Tim Fulton 16:44Okay

Drew Hanson 16:45... he's been fired every time. Sorry, sorry.

Tim Fulton 16:47Sorry, Jimmy.

Drew Hanson 16:48I occasionally get a little dig in on the guy. He, he came into the market at the beginning of November, and we didn't have a program director at the radio station for almost eight months-

Tim Fulton 16:58Okay

Drew Hanson 16:58... because all the jocks were s- And it w- I guess it was a compliment to us. We didn't-

Tim Fulton 17:01That you guys could handle yourselves

Drew Hanson 17:02... we could handle ourselves.

Tim Fulton 17:03Right.

Drew Hanson 17:03We didn't really need anybody slapping us on the wrist or any- We knew the mission of the, of the station. You know, we knew the goals and everything else.

Tim Fulton 17:09You knew what you were supposed to be playing in g- generally, right.

Drew Hanson 17:12Yeah, and a lot of us were still running on that nationwide mindset, despite the fact that, you know, Clear Channel was, was in charge. They were almost like a substitute teacher that we didn't believe was our real, "You're not our real dad." Like-

Tim Fulton 17:24Okay

Drew Hanson 17:24... or, you know, a stepmom or a stepdad-

Tim Fulton 17:26Right

Drew Hanson 17:26... or something. None, none of the, the lifers or the, the WNCI purists that came over-

Tim Fulton 17:31Uh-huh

Drew Hanson 17:32... in the sale ever really, I think, maybe for a year or two, until things really shook up-

Tim Fulton 17:38You were like, "It's fine, whatever."

Drew Hanson 17:40It's, yeah-

Tim Fulton 17:40"I'm getting a paycheck"

Drew Hanson 17:40... nothing's really gonna be different.

Tim Fulton 17:42Right.

Drew Hanson 17:42Everything's gonna be, you know, we're, we're, we're okay. And then, well, the first major thing that happened was we moved into The Continent-

Tim Fulton 17:48Mm

Drew Hanson 17:48... from, from, you know, higher up, the one nationwide building.

Tim Fulton 17:52Right.

Drew Hanson 17:52You know, and we moved into The Continent, which was mold-infested and everything else, where everybody had out-

Tim Fulton 17:57That was well past its heyday.

Drew Hanson 17:59Well, well past its heyday. There were, I don't, I think even the skaters quit going there to skate- ... at the time that we were in The Continent.

Tim Fulton 18:06Right.

Drew Hanson 18:06There was nothing left there. Well, actually, there was the bars. The bars were always kinda still hopping there until-

Tim Fulton 18:12Right

Drew Hanson 18:12... until they got, you know-

Tim Fulton 18:13So new guy comes in

Drew Hanson 18:15... immediately, um, starts meeting with, like, every talent on the air staff except for myself and Fish. Fish was my partner at night.

Tim Fulton 18:23Okay.

Drew Hanson 18:24So we started questioning, like, "Why haven't we had a meeting with this guy yet?"

Tim Fulton 18:27Right.

Drew Hanson 18:27And we found out that Matt Ryan, who was, like, this part-time kid who was ironically enough 19-

Tim Fulton 18:33Okay

Drew Hanson 18:33... which we're, so were, so was I the first time I came in. So he's been meeting with him, and I'm going, "Why is a part- you know, why is he meeting with the Saturday night overnight kid?"

Tim Fulton 18:41Essentially the intern, right.

Drew Hanson 18:43Yeah, the, the overnight kid on Saturdays. So we started, I started snooping, doing a little my investigative work.

Tim Fulton 18:50Right.

Drew Hanson 18:50That's gotten me out of many relationships. There's my-

Tim Fulton 18:54Business and personal

Drew Hanson 18:55... th- right there, boom, got something on her, there's my out. Yeah. No, so I started kinda snooping and going, "I think that, I think we're getting replaced at the end of the year by Matt Ryan," and Fish was like, "No, there's no chance we're getting replaced." So-

Tim Fulton 19:07People love us.

Drew Hanson 19:08Yeah.

Tim Fulton 19:08Sales is-

Drew Hanson 19:08We were number one.

Tim Fulton 19:09Right.

Drew Hanson 19:09We had never dipped to number two.

Tim Fulton 19:11Okay.

Drew Hanson 19:12We, we were n- the n- and not even close. We were number one by far. And-

Tim Fulton 19:16Well, and let's, I just wanna point out that is most likely because of, one, strength of s- signal, and two, format, right? Like, you-

Drew Hanson 19:22He might... Oh, yeah

Tim Fulton 19:22... yeah, but I don't want to at a- all insult, like, you-

Drew Hanson 19:26All right, C101 boy.

Tim Fulton 19:27I'm just-

Drew Hanson 19:27Okay

Tim Fulton 19:27... you know.

Drew Hanson 19:28All right. No, it, it is strength, no, it is those factors, and-

Tim Fulton 19:31Right

Drew Hanson 19:31... they di- I don't think they even made any bones about that, you know?

Tim Fulton 19:34Right.

Drew Hanson 19:34We're, we reached the most people. In fact-

Tim Fulton 19:35You're the elephant, right

Drew Hanson 19:36... in fact, Dave Robbins had his theory of the art of war where he goes, you know, "If we play a song that, you know, uh, uh, Chan- uh, 98," what was the Al- hot alternative for a while in the '90s and early 2000s?

Tim Fulton 19:50Oh, like 105.7?

Drew Hanson 19:51Channel Z. Channel Z. 93 whatever, Channel Z.

Tim Fulton 19:54Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Drew Hanson 19:54Or, or Hot 105 or Hot 107-

Tim Fulton 19:56Yep

Drew Hanson 19:56... or in the '90s, or, uh, Power 107-

Tim Fulton 19:59Yeah

Drew Hanson 19:59... if it, if it's still a thing.

Tim Fulton 20:01Yep, still there.

Drew Hanson 20:01That's how out of radio I am. I don't know what's what. But if they would play a, a, a song, and then we would play a song, we would basically advertise that song for them to play it. We, they would hear it on WNCI-

Tim Fulton 20:15People were pulling from you, basically.

Drew Hanson 20:17Well, no, it was more, Dave Robbins' belief, and it's, I guess it's in The Art of War book.

Tim Fulton 20:22Okay.

Drew Hanson 20:23If you starve your enemy by giving them your rations, or, or no, if you give the enemy your rations, they, they, they can eat. If you starve them by taking your rations, the enemy doesn't eat. So if a smaller station played a song and it didn't sound familiar to the average listener, they would pop out and they would go to WNCI. This is acting on the belief-

Tim Fulton 20:45You were feeding them. Yeah

Drew Hanson 20:47... you're feeding them by playing, like, if we played a hip hop song, when Power started getting a little bit of momentum in the, in the-

Tim Fulton 20:53Right

Drew Hanson 20:53... in the ratings, if we played a hip hop song, we were advertising Power 107.

Tim Fulton 20:57Mm-hmm.

Drew Hanson 20:57So, uh, hip- we're going, "WNCI is officially not making hip hop cool." That's literally, it would be on a memo. It would say, "We are no longer playing anything that Power 107, we are not sharing a playlist with anything Power 107 plays," because we're advertising their station, because if people hear it on WNCI, it's a hit. If they hear it on Power 107 that they heard on WNCI-

Tim Fulton 21:19Right

Drew Hanson 21:20... it's a hit that they just happened to hear on Power 107. It's freaking genius when you think about it.

Tim Fulton 21:25Yeah.

Drew Hanson 21:25When you've got the bigger stick, and, and, you know, I've applied that in business, like, okay, you know, if more people know me, or if more peop- or my audience or whatever is, is this-

Tim Fulton 21:36Right

Drew Hanson 21:36... and it's this big, and this person's audience is this, and it's, you know, it's only this big-

Tim Fulton 21:41And there's some crossover

Drew Hanson 21:42... and, and there's a little bit of crossover, or that person is any way related to me, I can just tell my audience, you know, eh, let, let's, uh, that-

Tim Fulton 21:50There is no crossover here

Drew Hanson 21:52... there's no crossover here. I don't know that person, or that's a karaoke DJ, or that's a-

Tim Fulton 21:56Right

Drew Hanson 21:57... that's a whatever. And that's, I guess it's smart business, 'cause there's a lot of people that are gonna do a lot more ruthless things than me.

Tim Fulton 22:03Right.

Drew Hanson 22:03But, but that's, was the philosophy Dave Robbins had with music. Like, with-

Tim Fulton 22:06And so guy's not taking your calls, guy's not taking a meeting with you, and basically within a month and a half you're sort of let go.

Drew Hanson 22:15What's funny is we, we confronted him.

Tim Fulton 22:17Okay.

Drew Hanson 22:17I, I go, "Do you wanna..." I said, "Do you wanna sit this, have this sitting over us for a month?" And Fish was like, "Yeah, let's make the money. Like, let's not... 'Cause if we confront him, he might just fire us on the spot."

Tim Fulton 22:26Right.

Drew Hanson 22:27I go, "Well, you know, I, I can't live-

Tim Fulton 22:28I'm not comfortable with that

Drew Hanson 22:29... I can't live like that." No, I mean, it had been two, three days that, that I knew. Like, I, I had an instinctual knowing because he wasn't meeting with us and whatever else.

Tim Fulton 22:38Right.

Drew Hanson 22:38And then I just knew, just 'cause whenever I know something and it's horrible, it's always true.

Tim Fulton 22:42Okay.

Drew Hanson 22:43It, it is. Whenever I just know it and I go, "Damn it, I know this is true, and it's horrible," it, uh, it always is.

Tim Fulton 22:48Okay.

Drew Hanson 22:48Um, that's a horrible affirmation, but, uh, uh, but I just knew.

Tim Fulton 22:52It's fair.

Drew Hanson 22:52I said, "Let's just confront him." I said, "If we're going down, I'm going down in flames." He goes, "Well, I'll go in with you, but whatever." I go, "Just trust me, you know, like, I'm not gonna steer you wrong on this."

Tim Fulton 23:01Right.

Drew Hanson 23:01So we confront him, and he's like... And I remember the statement, he goes, he goes, "Uh, man, I swear the wall's got ears around here. I said I don't know what I'm gonna do with the station at the end of the year. I know I may make changes, I may not." And, uh, we were just like, you know-

Tim Fulton 23:14That wouldn't make me comfortable at all. Right

Drew Hanson 23:15... yeah, we were not comfortable. And he goes, you know, "Sometimes the walls are talking, I guess, you know, blah, blah, blah." And so I go, "So what, are you saying this is true? Uh, 'cause you haven't met with us. This is the first you've met with us, and you've met with-

Tim Fulton 23:26Because we asked for the meeting, right.

Drew Hanson 23:27Yeah, we asked for it to get it. So we get the meeting, and, you know, guy was real twitchy, dude. He was on coffee and, uh, well, whatever. He goes, "Oh, yeah, you know, I don't know. I don't know how it's gonna work. I don't know how it's gonna happen. I don't know what's gonna go on."

Tim Fulton 23:39Right.

Drew Hanson 23:40So we go on and we do the show as, as he wanted us to do the show.

Tim Fulton 23:43Right. You're taking-

Drew Hanson 23:44Which-

Tim Fulton 23:44... direction from him

Drew Hanson 23:45... we were taking direction-

Tim Fulton 23:46Right

Drew Hanson 23:46... from him and not treating him or Clear Channel like the stepmother or stepfather.

Tim Fulton 23:50Mm-hmm.

Drew Hanson 23:51"You're not my real dad."

Tim Fulton 23:52Right.

Drew Hanson 23:52We, we took direction and we did it. We did everything he wanted us to do. So Thursday, it's a Thursday, and on Thursdays all the carpet cleaners came and all this stuff. So one of the carpet cleaners left the door unlocked, so this dude just walks in and he goes, "Hey, what's up, guys?" We're like, I look at Fish and I'm like, "Are, is this guy with you?" And he looks at me like, "This guy with you?" I go-

Tim Fulton 24:13Why is this guy in the studio, right?

Drew Hanson 24:14Why is this guy in the studio? He goes, "Is Matt Ryan here?" We're like, "No, Matt R- why would Matt Ryan be here?" And he goes, "Oh," he goes, "I just, I came to see him 'cause I thought he got the night show." And I look at Fish, and Fish looks at me, and I go, "Let's f-..." I go, "No, he's not here. How did you get in here?" He's like, "Oh, the door was just unlocked."

Tim Fulton 24:32Right.

Drew Hanson 24:32So the guy, the guy leaves. To this day, I don't know who that guy was-

Tim Fulton 24:35But he's the one that-

Drew Hanson 24:36... or if this was planted, or if this was supposed to happen, but the first thing we did was get on the phone and call Jimmy Steele. And we said, "Dude, this guy just came in the station while the carpet cleaner's and left one of the doors unlocked-

Tim Fulton 24:47Right

Drew Hanson 24:48... and said he was here to see Matt Ryan." And-

Tim Fulton 24:50We know what's up now

Drew Hanson 24:51... and, and like, "What, what's going on?" And he goes, "Guys, I don't know what's going on. I don't know who that would've been." Or, I mean, it couldn't have been, like it, it couldn't have been a worse cover-

Tim Fulton 25:00So now he's just lying to you

Drew Hanson 25:01... well, now he's lying to us.

Tim Fulton 25:03Right.

Drew Hanson 25:03And then I'm go- I'm looking at Fish, and I'm just, my face is beet red, and I have the tape of the last hour of us at the station, and it's so funny to listen to, 'cause there's so many inside things to me and him about, like, you know, if it was gonna be our last night or whatever.

Tim Fulton 25:15Just talking about burning bridges and, yeah.

Drew Hanson 25:17No, nothing like that. It was so subtle. No listener would've known.

Tim Fulton 25:21Okay. Okay.

Drew Hanson 25:21No listener would've known. And e- and even when I'm listening to it, I'm going, "I don't remember what that jab was," but it, like, whatever-

Tim Fulton 25:27But it cer- it sounds like a jab

Drew Hanson 25:28... they were all ribs.

Tim Fulton 25:29Right.

Drew Hanson 25:29They were all ribs directly related to Jimmy Steele. So sure enough, Friday we come into the station, and Chris Davis is there, and he goes, "Hey, guys, Jimmy's upstairs waiting for you." We're like, "Yeah, I f- kind of figured." So we go upstairs, and he's, you know, he's got Joe Kelly. Poor Joe Kelly, we had gone to his father's funeral-

Tim Fulton 25:47Okay

Drew Hanson 25:48... two months before this. So we had g- and he, this was our boy at-

Tim Fulton 25:53Right

Drew Hanson 25:53... at the radio station. Fish's boy longer than mine. I, you know, I like the guy.

Tim Fulton 25:57Okay.

Drew Hanson 25:58But he, we had gone to his dad's funeral, and we were all real tight with him. Jimmy freaking pulls him in and makes him be the witness. So he's sitting there, he's watching two of his best friends get fired by a guy who's been in the building for less than a month.

Tim Fulton 26:10Ugh.

Drew Hanson 26:10And who's, who's, you know, got this plan to make Matt Ryan this, you know, hot-

Tim Fulton 26:14Right

Drew Hanson 26:14... young, he's like, you know, "You guys are 25. You sound stale." "And even though you, you know, you're, you can't be hot young night guys at 25 years old." What are you, what, what is 25 old?

Tim Fulton 26:24Yeah.

Drew Hanson 26:25I could be a night... I had an audition to be a night guy at 35. I mean, what are you talking about? And he was just rattling off all these reasons why it was over. So then it was it. It was over, and he told the staff that we quit.

Tim Fulton 26:36Okay.

Drew Hanson 26:37It was i- in a memo, which w-

Tim Fulton 26:38So but you went back there.

Drew Hanson 26:40I went back, like, three years after, when I knew, when he was finished.

Tim Fulton 26:43Okay.

Drew Hanson 26:43'Cause they had put him through, they put him through rehab.

Tim Fulton 26:46Okay.

Drew Hanson 26:47Like, and, uh, you know, this, this boss. Like, it was all this, you know, stuff with him being there, and, and, and just all the other changes that cl- you know, they finally moved, and they, they started getting into a better place-

Tim Fulton 26:56Okay

Drew Hanson 26:56... as a company. So they all moved under one roof over on the Fifth Avenue.

Tim Fulton 26:59Okay.

Drew Hanson 27:00And then they hired Mike McCoy, who was a really great program director, and once Jimmy Steele was completely out of the building and out of whatever.

Tim Fulton 27:08Okay. They started farming that old talent.

Drew Hanson 27:09They started... Well, they didn't really farm it. They just, McCoy was ready to do some stuff with some, and Jimmy, Jimmy Jam is one of my best friends.

Tim Fulton 27:16Okay.

Drew Hanson 27:17And he was like, "Hey, man, if you wanna come back, like, this is the time to do it."

Tim Fulton 27:20Right.

Drew Hanson 27:21Like, so, you know, I met with McCoy, and I went back, and there wasn't anything full-time, and there was a little bit of that, uh, a little sourness.

Tim Fulton 27:29Right.

Drew Hanson 27:29Not really from me, 'cause I was just, you know, I thought the whole thing was a fluke, and the fluke is over and I'm back.

Tim Fulton 27:34Right.

Drew Hanson 27:35But they, there, there was, when it was over, I, I kinda... 'Cause I had a, uh, mailing list with my radio show.

Tim Fulton 27:41Mm-hmm.

Drew Hanson 27:41An internet mailing list. I was o- I was on, on top of the internet-

Tim Fulton 27:44Okay

Drew Hanson 27:44... in the '90s.

Tim Fulton 27:45Right.

Drew Hanson 27:45Like, I was all over it. I had an internet newsletter before the radio station had a website.

Tim Fulton 27:49Okay.

Drew Hanson 27:50So I was sending out this internet newsletter and developing all these, and really what you're getting is y- is information gathering.

Tim Fulton 27:55Absolutely. Right.

Drew Hanson 27:56So I was so early on that. I got 3, 4, 5,000 email addresses-

Tim Fulton 28:00Mm-hmm

Drew Hanson 28:01... from that newsletter. So when I left the station, I had all those, those e-mail-

Tim Fulton 28:05They were yours.

Drew Hanson 28:05They had, they had no-

Tim Fulton 28:06Right

Drew Hanson 28:06... they had no claim on that.

Tim Fulton 28:07Right.

Drew Hanson 28:07That was my s- my information. So I started a website and started posting to people what had happened and-

Tim Fulton 28:12Oh, okay

Drew Hanson 28:13... kind of the internal, and this is before, I may have inspired that in the Clear Channel contract, that you can't do anything on the web-

Tim Fulton 28:19Hmm

Drew Hanson 28:19... with a blog or anything like that after you're fired for a certain-

Tim Fulton 28:23Good to know

Drew Hanson 28:23... number of, anyway.

Tim Fulton 28:24Right.

Drew Hanson 28:24I, I, I don't know, but I know that that's in there now, that you can't, you can't do anything like that. You can't have a private, you know-

Tim Fulton 28:30And so you went back. How much longer were you, were you there for that second stint?

Drew Hanson 28:35Well, I was always there.

Tim Fulton 28:37Okay.

Drew Hanson 28:37But, well, no, no, no. I was not there there.

Tim Fulton 28:40Okay.

Drew Hanson 28:41I stayed on doing impressions for The Zoo and things like that.

Tim Fulton 28:44Oh, okay.

Drew Hanson 28:45Because Dave and Jimmy, a lot of people don't know this, Dave and Jimmy are their own company.

Tim Fulton 28:49Okay.

Drew Hanson 28:50They work for the station.

Tim Fulton 28:51Right.

Drew Hanson 28:51But Dave and Jimmy, the syndication that they do for stations, you know, over the Midwest or whatever-

Tim Fulton 28:57Mid-market, right

Drew Hanson 28:57... that's Dave and Jimmy's company.

Tim Fulton 28:59Okay.

Drew Hanson 28:59That's, that's not Clear Channel that's doing that, 'cause I think there may be, they may, I don't know, I may be wrong, but they might be on stations that aren't even Clear Channel.

Tim Fulton 29:06Okay.

Drew Hanson 29:07Just as Dave and Jimmy the product.

Tim Fulton 29:09Okay.

Drew Hanson 29:09So I was a valuable impressionist to them, so whenever I came on, I never got paid unless I got paid out of Dave's pocket or out of Jimmy's pocket. But-

Tim Fulton 29:17Okay

Drew Hanson 29:17... I was coming into the station all the time to do-

Tim Fulton 29:19Gotcha

Drew Hanson 29:20... projects for them. I just was not an employee, and I didn't have an air shift or anything like that.

Tim Fulton 29:24So were you doing, like, the jingles and the s- like, the, they would do, like, mock songs and stuff, right? Do you know what I'm talking about?

Drew Hanson 29:31Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tim Fulton 29:32Okay.

Drew Hanson 29:32Yeah. Like, I was, I was Jim Ganahl.

Tim Fulton 29:34Got it.

Drew Hanson 29:34I was the Jim Ganahl impression, yeah. That was the big one, but that's only local, so-

Tim Fulton 29:38Right

Drew Hanson 29:38... but there was a few other ones

Tim Fulton 29:39That only works in this market.

Drew Hanson 29:40Yeah, like celebrities, you know, like, uh, Christopher Walken, Donald Trump, like, stuff like that.

Tim Fulton 29:44Gotcha.

Drew Hanson 29:44They would bring me in to do, to do some of those, so.

Tim Fulton 29:47And so did you, so you keep sort of referencing, like, what happened in the end. Did you basically burn it down, or was it just that you had made it clear what happened with your blog?

Drew Hanson 29:55I never burned, I never burned WNCI as a station.

Tim Fulton 29:59Okay.

Drew Hanson 29:59Because WNCI was, to me it was like a girlfriend that I loved so much.

Tim Fulton 30:04Right.

Drew Hanson 30:05And she was being beaten in this abusive relationship by-

Tim Fulton 30:09That you had no-

Drew Hanson 30:09... not only her boyfriend, but her boyfriend's parents.

Tim Fulton 30:11Right. And you have just no control over it at that point.

Drew Hanson 30:13And I have no control over it, and, you know, I mean, I've said this, and I, and I'll say this, you know, that's the only radio station I'll ever work for again.

Tim Fulton 30:20Okay.

Drew Hanson 30:21Like, I, I, I couldn't see me going to... You know, I worked for a few stations after I quit-

Tim Fulton 30:26Okay

Drew Hanson 30:26... or, or left. You know, I I left by, by Jimmy Steele firing, then I went back, then I quit, and then I've gone back and done freelance stuff. So-

Tim Fulton 30:37Okay

Drew Hanson 30:37... and I, and I did a little freelance with Mancow in Chicago.

Tim Fulton 30:40Okay.

Drew Hanson 30:40But I've never worked for a station since WNCI.

Tim Fulton 30:43Gotcha.

Drew Hanson 30:44And I would never, I would never do that s- for any other station. That, 'cause that's my childhood station. For anything-

Tim Fulton 30:48Right

Drew Hanson 30:48... did you grow up in Central Ohio?

Tim Fulton 30:50Yes. Yeah.

Drew Hanson 30:50That's, you know, I mean-

Tim Fulton 30:51I mean, that's what... Yeah

Drew Hanson 30:52... maybe it's not your style of music, but WNCI, come on. That's-

Tim Fulton 30:55Well, I mean, that's what, you know, it was that or, or Sunny that, you know, we were listening to in elementary school, middle school, in the, you know, backseat of the minivan, of course.

Drew Hanson 31:03Yeah.

Tim Fulton 31:03That's, 'cause that's what moms listen to.

Drew Hanson 31:04Yeah.

Tim Fulton 31:05But yeah.

Drew Hanson 31:06And that's the perfect comparison, 'cause that was the compar- That's who the program director always said we were talking to was about in the minivan.

Tim Fulton 31:12Right.

Drew Hanson 31:12The girl with the, the, the, the m- the, the cool mother-

Tim Fulton 31:16Mm-hmm

Drew Hanson 31:16... that ships her kids, you know, she has her kids in the minivan.

Tim Fulton 31:19Well, 'cause she's making the purchasing decisions in the house. I mean, that's, that's a valuable demographic.

Drew Hanson 31:23Yeah.

Tim Fulton 31:23Absolutely. So then you, when did you go to Chicago?

Drew Hanson 31:27That was after I had cancer. You're like, "Man, I thought we were gonna wrap this up."

Tim Fulton 31:34So tell-

Drew Hanson 31:35And then you just pop open another can of worms.

Tim Fulton 31:37I was not aware that you had cancer.

Drew Hanson 31:38I did. Yeah, actually, where I met you, we just met, what, a month ago?

Tim Fulton 31:42Yeah.

Drew Hanson 31:42About a month ago.

Tim Fulton 31:43We did a wedding together, yeah.

Drew Hanson 31:44So we met, and I booked that wedding because the bride, I knew her a decade ago, and her brother-in-law had the same exact cancer I had.

Tim Fulton 31:54Okay.

Drew Hanson 31:55So I don't know w- how that ended up a selling point for me, but she was like, you know, I got to know her. She would... 'Cause it was close to her.

Tim Fulton 32:02Okay.

Drew Hanson 32:03So she got to check in with me and stuff like that when I was sick and, and whatever else, and, um, that's how I kind of really got to know her. We, we started off on the horrible foot, but th- ... this is a whole other story. Anyhow, but that's how I ended up booking that, was it was Hodgkin's lymphoma.

Tim Fulton 32:17Okay.

Drew Hanson 32:18So her, the bride that, at the wedding that we met at-

Tim Fulton 32:21Right

Drew Hanson 32:21... her brother-in-law had it.

Tim Fulton 32:22So were you treated here?

Drew Hanson 32:24I was treated at The James Cancer, which is, I can't even say, the greatest institution.

Tim Fulton 32:29Okay.

Drew Hanson 32:29I, I've never had cancer at any other institution in the country.

Tim Fulton 32:32But I can't imagine-

Drew Hanson 32:33But I can't imagine it being any better than The James.

Tim Fulton 32:35Okay.

Drew Hanson 32:36I mean, it, they, uh, the, and I'm talking the nuances. Like, I, I will not do something for weeks, months, whatever on end if I think it involves a phone call or paperwork.

Tim Fulton 32:49Right.

Drew Hanson 32:49If I have to get on a phone, like, if I have an overdraft charge and, and I wanna fight it, like, but they make you get on the phone and call the person or whatever, I'll-

Tim Fulton 32:57You'll just eat it

Drew Hanson 32:57... I'll literally wait. Well, not always. If I really-

Tim Fulton 33:00Okay

Drew Hanson 33:00... really need it, if I need, you know, 35 bucks, I'm like-

Tim Fulton 33:02Right

Drew Hanson 33:02... "Ah, I need that," like, I'll go fight for it. But if, if I don't need it and I'm like, "Uh, what is this worth to me? What is this worth to me? Do I, do I have to, I have to get on a phone. I have to actually go physically see a person. Ah, 35-

Tim Fulton 33:16How did you-

Drew Hanson 33:16... what is 35 bucks?"

Tim Fulton 33:18How'd you find out that you had cancer?

Drew Hanson 33:20I just had a cough and sweats for a, a prolonged period of time.

Tim Fulton 33:26Slightly too long.

Drew Hanson 33:26Longer than, longer than you should have cough and sweats.

Tim Fulton 33:29Right.

Drew Hanson 33:29And my doctor, and I, I've developed, over the years I've developed kind of a beat-up voice anyhow, but my doctor was like, "Man, it's even worse than normal."

Tim Fulton 33:38Okay.

Drew Hanson 33:39And I was like... He goes, "It sounds like you have an obstruction," like, or, or it's, or something. You have something-

Tim Fulton 33:43Something's different

Drew Hanson 33:44... something is up.

Tim Fulton 33:45Right.

Drew Hanson 33:45And, uh, sure enough, it was, like, a knot, like, the size of a baseball in my chest. I'm showing the audience like there's a camera on me.

Tim Fulton 33:53Right. So, and how long were you, did you end up having to be in treatment? Like-

Drew Hanson 33:59It's about a year.

Tim Fulton 33:59Okay.

Drew Hanson 34:00Yeah.

Tim Fulton 34:00Wow.

Drew Hanson 34:00Totally about a year. Yeah, but it, it, there was never, um... I mean, I was late, too. I was, like, 3B, which is, like, four is when it's in your organs and stuff.

Tim Fulton 34:09Okay.

Drew Hanson 34:10But everybody was real calm. I mean, they were just... And my mother died of the same, same cancer.

Tim Fulton 34:15Oh.

Drew Hanson 34:15At same age as I was, too.

Tim Fulton 34:17Okay.

Drew Hanson 34:17And everybody was real calm, and I just kind of had this thought, like, "This is just gonna be a really big inconvenience for about a year," and then, and that's what it was.

Tim Fulton 34:25Right.

Drew Hanson 34:26It was a big... And, uh, and then chemo has some kind of toxic effects on you after.

Tim Fulton 34:30Okay.

Drew Hanson 34:30Like, I still, if it's, like, really, really cold outside, all my fingertips will be sheet white.

Tim Fulton 34:35Okay.

Drew Hanson 34:36They'll all go white. It'll look like all the blood's just completely-

Tim Fulton 34:39And how long ago was this?

Drew Hanson 34:402008.

Tim Fulton 34:41Okay.

Drew Hanson 34:41About a decade ago. Yeah, it was the summer of 2008, so almost 10 years.

Tim Fulton 34:44And you are currently-

Drew Hanson 34:46I, I'm free. I'm, everything-

Tim Fulton 34:47That's awesome.

Drew Hanson 34:47Yeah.

Tim Fulton 34:48Congratulations.

Drew Hanson 34:48I mean, I've had a few, I've had a few related illnesses in the past few years, you know, from it, but nothing-

Tim Fulton 34:55Okay

Drew Hanson 34:55... anything like the initial, yeah, the initial thing. So-

Tim Fulton 34:59And so why did you... So are you saying that cancer prompted you to move-

Drew Hanson 35:03Yeah

Tim Fulton 35:04... to Chicago?

Drew Hanson 35:04Yes. Yeah.

Tim Fulton 35:05How so?

Drew Hanson 35:05Cancer prompted me, well, 'cause I wanted to move to Los Angeles.

Tim Fulton 35:08Okay.

Drew Hanson 35:08But that was just too big of a jump-

Tim Fulton 35:11Okay

Drew Hanson 35:12... because I still had to have functional operations, you know, in Ohio. Six hours, I, I mean-

Tim Fulton 35:17That tether had to be there.

Drew Hanson 35:19That dre- Yeah.

Tim Fulton 35:19You, you, okay.

Drew Hanson 35:20It had to be something I could get to within a, a day or-

Tim Fulton 35:22Okay

Drew Hanson 35:23... or something that I could get to without an exorbitant amount of money spent.

Tim Fulton 35:27Right. Quickly.

Drew Hanson 35:28Yeah. And, and I was building an acting career at that time.

Tim Fulton 35:31Okay.

Drew Hanson 35:31That's what made me go to Second, uh, City in Chicago and then-

Tim Fulton 35:34Okay

Drew Hanson 35:34... go to ImprovOlympic and everything else. So, and, and it's a good thing that I did because now it's, for an actor, moving to LA is the worst thing you could do.

Tim Fulton 35:42Okay.

Drew Hanson 35:43It, 'cause the, all the shooting happens, you know... Oh, that sounds so morbid. All the shooting happens-

Tim Fulton 35:47Yeah

Drew Hanson 35:48... all around the country.

Tim Fulton 35:48But we know what you mean. Right.

Drew Hanson 35:49All, all, all of the, all of the, uh, yeah, like Louisiana would be a better move-

Tim Fulton 35:53Right

Drew Hanson 35:53... than Los Angeles. Michigan would be a better move than Los Angeles.

Tim Fulton 35:56Well, but not permanently, right?

Drew Hanson 35:57No, for-

Tim Fulton 35:58'Cause it's not enough-

Drew Hanson 35:58But I'm saying if you're trying to break into to acting-

Tim Fulton 36:01Right

Drew Hanson 36:01... because there's so many studios and productions that are now being in-

Tim Fulton 36:05All over the country, right

Drew Hanson 36:06... in this, yeah, in these locations. And well, plus also the tax breaks, you know, uh, Louisiana is, so many movies shoot there.

Tim Fulton 36:12Yeah.

Drew Hanson 36:13It looks like it's in Southern California or it looks like it's, it's in Brazil.

Tim Fulton 36:16Right.

Drew Hanson 36:16And, you know, it's-

Tim Fulton 36:16And I will refer listeners to a previous interview with the Ohio Film Council to talk about sort of O- how Ohio ... works itself in there with the film credits and stuff.

Drew Hanson 36:25Yeah.

Tim Fulton 36:26And so it's-

Drew Hanson 36:27Ohio actually, you know, there's a lot of stuff, Fast and Furious and The Avengers and everything-

Tim Fulton 36:30Yeah

Drew Hanson 36:31... that was here.

Tim Fulton 36:31Well, but they, so the argument there is that, that productions like that soak up literally a year's worth of credits for any productions that can happen within the state.

Drew Hanson 36:40Exactly.

Tim Fulton 36:40So we just need more or a different, different system, so- some would argue.

Drew Hanson 36:44Yeah, and I think that'll happen. I think Ohio's gonna get a piece of that. I mean, it already has gotten a piece of that pie.

Tim Fulton 36:49Yeah.

Drew Hanson 36:49But, uh, w- everything that's shot here, like that Travolta movie.

Tim Fulton 36:53Right.

Drew Hanson 36:53Oh, did you see it?

Tim Fulton 36:54I did not.

Drew Hanson 36:55Oh.

Tim Fulton 36:55I knew better.

Drew Hanson 36:56Oh, it's, I mean, it's cool 'cause you watch it and you go, "Oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh."

Tim Fulton 36:59"I know that place." Right.

Drew Hanson 37:00Yeah, and I got a lot of that, you know, with, a lot of movies that are beloved in Chicago are just 'cause they were m- in Chicago.

Tim Fulton 37:05Right.

Drew Hanson 37:05Like, uh, the Rookie of the Year movie. That terrible movie.

Tim Fulton 37:08Yeah.

Drew Hanson 37:08But, but that kid who was also in American Pie.

Tim Fulton 37:11Yeah.

Drew Hanson 37:12I don't know, it was, it, it's, it's three names. I, I, I'm never good with actors' names-

Tim Fulton 37:15I don't know

Drew Hanson 37:15... on the spot. It's Thomas Ian Nicholas, but whatever. But he is in a band, and he goes in Chicago and plays just-

Tim Fulton 37:22And people just love him

Drew Hanson 37:23... just as, and the bands packs venues.

Tim Fulton 37:26That's funny.

Drew Hanson 37:26Terrible music, and the bands pack 'cause it's that kid from Rookie of the Year in Chicago.

Tim Fulton 37:30And we all love them-

Drew Hanson 37:31And, and we love 'em

Tim Fulton 37:31... here in Chicago.

Drew Hanson 37:32We all love-

Tim Fulton 37:32Right?

Drew Hanson 37:33We all love them here in Chicago. It's the easiest formula in the world 'cause people will latch on. Like, they'll still go Blues Brothers for things in Chicago-

Tim Fulton 37:40Oh, yeah

Drew Hanson 37:40... 'cause it was shot there. Ferris Bueller's like a holiday- ... in that city. Ferris Bueller's seriously like a national holiday in Chicago. People in Chicago love that they're from Chicago.

Tim Fulton 37:50Yeah.

Drew Hanson 37:51They love it. And I wish I could have that kinda pride about anything like people in Chicago have it.

Tim Fulton 37:56Well, we're working on it here for Columbus.

Drew Hanson 37:58Yeah. Well...

Tim Fulton 37:58So, and then why'd you come back?

Drew Hanson 38:00Just because I did everything there-

Tim Fulton 38:02Okay

Drew Hanson 38:02... that I wanted to do. I got mugged a couple of times.

Tim Fulton 38:05Okay.

Drew Hanson 38:05After the second time-

Tim Fulton 38:06That's not as bad as cancer.

Drew Hanson 38:08No. Well- ... it's not as quick, or not as- ... not as lengthy, I should say.

Tim Fulton 38:12Right.

Drew Hanson 38:12Yeah. I, a- a- and, and I had done everything, and it was really just, I was just having fun at the bars and doing, you know, doing all the wrong things for my age.

Tim Fulton 38:21Okay.

Drew Hanson 38:22And I was like, "Yeah, I'm not gonna change my, my behavior, so I might as well change my surroundings."

Tim Fulton 38:27Well, go somewhere where it's a little cheaper-

Drew Hanson 38:29Gotta-

Tim Fulton 38:29... to do it.

Drew Hanson 38:30A little cheaper to do it, and it's a little bit less of a risk of getting mugged walking home every night.

Tim Fulton 38:36I think it's a lot less-

Drew Hanson 38:37Yeah

Tim Fulton 38:37... of a risk.

Drew Hanson 38:37I mean, I, I lived in Grandview the first year I was back here and just left the door unlocked half the time. If I w- I'd be gone for the whole day and just, "Oh, I left the door unlocked. Whoops."

Tim Fulton 38:46And so what are you doing now?

Drew Hanson 38:47I've got this side business going. A lot of my concept-based entertainment is replacing DJ stuff.

Tim Fulton 38:55Okay.

Drew Hanson 38:55Because I, I think the DJ thing-

Tim Fulton 38:57So define that, concept-based entertainment.

Drew Hanson 39:00I just made that up. Do you like that?

Tim Fulton 39:01That's good.

Drew Hanson 39:02I think I, I think I made that up.

Tim Fulton 39:02Now you have to tell us what it is.

Drew Hanson 39:04I, I made it up right there. I made, I made it up. Instead of having a trivia night-

Tim Fulton 39:10Uh-huh

Drew Hanson 39:10... I have a trivia concept.

Tim Fulton 39:12Okay.

Drew Hanson 39:13So mine is #Trivia-

Tim Fulton 39:16Okay

Drew Hanson 39:16... where I ask the questions, you know, on the microphone in the bar.

Tim Fulton 39:20Right.

Drew Hanson 39:20Nobody has to get up. Nobody has to move. They can just answer the a- answer on Twitter.

Tim Fulton 39:25Okay.

Drew Hanson 39:26Put the answer, then put hashtag whatever the name of the venue is. Well, we establish what the hashtag is-

Tim Fulton 39:32Right

Drew Hanson 39:32... so that there's not 50 different hashtags.

Tim Fulton 39:33You just put it up on a screen or whatever.

Drew Hanson 39:34Yeah. Like, I would ask the questions. I would go, "#AverageJoesNewAlbany."

Tim Fulton 39:38Right.

Tim Fulton 39:41Right.

Drew Hanson 39:41So we would establish that hashtag as a brand over time. So when I go to people and I s- and I pitch this, I go, "You know, this is not only a trivia concept. Like, it's, it's-"

Tim Fulton 39:50It will elevate your-

Drew Hanson 39:52It's, it's gonna elevate-

Tim Fulton 39:52... your brand as well. Right

Drew Hanson 39:53... your social media presence. It's gonna elevate your hashtag as a brand-

Tim Fulton 39:57Right

Drew Hanson 39:57... where people, when they come to your place, instead of checking in and whatever, they can also give you a feed of people specifically talking about your place.

Tim Fulton 40:06Yeah.

Drew Hanson 40:06Uh, you know, in Twitter or Facebook or Instagram or whatever. So I said, "Well, you know, what this does is essentially it's a commercial for your, your brand." And the, you know, the topics that I choose are all pop culture. They're all stupid funny-

Tim Fulton 40:19Right

Drew Hanson 40:20... m- movies, you know, TV shows, longstanding pop culture things. You know, sometimes I'll occasionally just throw everything into a bowl and go, "The, the '90s are this week."

Tim Fulton 40:30Right.

Drew Hanson 40:30Or, "The '80s are this week," or whatever.

Tim Fulton 40:32Yeah.

Drew Hanson 40:32'Cause I think that the people doing trivia on pens and papers and w- running up and holding their hand and yelling out answers, why are we doing this in 2018?

Tim Fulton 40:42I mean, you know, as a proprietor of, you know, probably four different trivia nights at this point, not as a host anymore, but I farm out the, the hosting, the question from the bars a lot of times, at least the forward-thinking ones who aren't just looking for basically a karaoke night-

Drew Hanson 40:57Yeah

Tim Fulton 40:58... are like, "Why is there no, like, instantaneous feedback?"

Drew Hanson 41:02Right.

Tim Fulton 41:02Like, "Why do we have to wait for round two in order to, like, give answers?"

Drew Hanson 41:06Gotcha.

Tim Fulton 41:06And so, you know, it's a, it's a technology problem at this point.

Drew Hanson 41:09I do it on every question. I, a- I'll give you, you know, if you're first correct, 'cause then I just refresh the feed.

Tim Fulton 41:14That's smart.

Drew Hanson 41:15Whichever-

Tim Fulton 41:15No, I love it

Drew Hanson 41:15... whichever one I see on there that's first correct gets the points. So then I'll just give it a, you know, I'll give away... And sometimes, you know, it depends upon-

Tim Fulton 41:22You just keep a running list on a pad, right, of, like, okay, that team's, you know-

Drew Hanson 41:25Yeah

Tim Fulton 41:26... got that one first.

Drew Hanson 41:26You got, you got 100 points, you get 100 points, whatever. Nobody has to get out of their seat. We're Americans. We're lazy. We don't, we don't, we don't wanna get out of our seat.

Tim Fulton 41:33Right.

Drew Hanson 41:34So yeah, and then the-

Tim Fulton 41:35We should talk more about this, definitely.

Drew Hanson 41:37Yeah. And then I make the, but, um, I've got it on hiatus. I run it in stints.

Tim Fulton 41:41Okay.

Drew Hanson 41:41Like, I just ran it for the entire year for the first time since I've done this 'cause-

Tim Fulton 41:45Okay

Drew Hanson 41:46... it started as something I would just do during the commercials of sports events.

Tim Fulton 41:49Okay.

Drew Hanson 41:49Like, as a way to give away, you know, a, like a case.

Tim Fulton 41:52'Cause you're, like, the guy that's running the PA at that point.

Drew Hanson 41:54Running the PA-

Tim Fulton 41:54Okay

Drew Hanson 41:55... and just, just so bars don't have commercials playing during the-

Tim Fulton 41:58Absolutely. Yeah

Drew Hanson 41:58... so they have something happening during the commercials, music-

Tim Fulton 42:00Well, and the-

Drew Hanson 42:01... or whatever

Tim Fulton 42:01... the, you know, in my experience when I've done it, it's always been, like, okay, you pull up the, you know, Top 40 music at commercial breaks, and you play the fight song when Ohio State scores.

Drew Hanson 42:10Yeah, exactly.

Tim Fulton 42:11Or when, depending on what bar you're in.

Drew Hanson 42:12Oh, God.

Tim Fulton 42:12Right.

Drew Hanson 42:12In Chicago with the Blackhawks, man.

Tim Fulton 42:14Okay.

Drew Hanson 42:15If you, if you, when they score and you don't play Chelsea Dagger, like, the second, I mean, if you're in the bathroom or something-

Tim Fulton 42:20This guy sucks.

Drew Hanson 42:21Yeah. You are, you are booed, berated-

Tim Fulton 42:23That's good to know

Drew Hanson 42:23... because, because we established earlier this week-

Tim Fulton 42:25I got out of that business too

Drew Hanson 42:26... everyone loves Chicago-

Tim Fulton 42:27Right

Drew Hanson 42:27... being from Chicago.

Tim Fulton 42:29Yeah.

Drew Hanson 42:29Everyone in Chicago loves being in Chicago.

Tim Fulton 42:31And again, we're working on it in Columbus. That's the goal.

Drew Hanson 42:32And we're working on it in Columbus.

Tim Fulton 42:33They also have a better flag. That's the issue that, that I'm constantly-

Drew Hanson 42:37The Blackhawks?

Tim Fulton 42:38No, Chicago-

Drew Hanson 42:39Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah

Tim Fulton 42:39... has this better city flag, like the stars. Where I've got a crew working on kinda-

Drew Hanson 42:44You're working on a Columbus flag?

Tim Fulton 42:45Yeah.

Drew Hanson 42:46Man.

Tim Fulton 42:47I know. Gotta throw it under, like, a not, you know, auspices of a nonprofit.

Drew Hanson 42:51I'm on the ground, I'm on the ground floor of something here, on the second floor of something.

Tim Fulton 42:54Oh, there's like eight things going on now. The good thing is, is we're 42 minutes in, and so-

Drew Hanson 42:59Oh, then you can-

Tim Fulton 42:59... you know, who is still listening to this?

Drew Hanson 43:01You.

Tim Fulton 43:01I'm just revealing everything that I, that I'm working on. So what else are you, in addition to the hashtag comedy, you're-

Drew Hanson 43:07Well, yeah

Tim Fulton 43:07... hiatus from that.

Drew Hanson 43:08'90s, it's funny you mentioned earlier-

Tim Fulton 43:10Yeah

Drew Hanson 43:11... going to Somewhere On Sundays-

Tim Fulton 43:12Uh-huh

Drew Hanson 43:12... for the '90s. I, 20 years ago, the first show that I had any sort of notoriety with was Sunday Night '90s.

Tim Fulton 43:21Okay.

Drew Hanson 43:22So, uh, about five years ago or so, I just asked, you know, the powers that be, I said, "Hey, you know, I have all the archives of this show, like, literally all of them."

Tim Fulton 43:30Okay.

Drew Hanson 43:31"I have all the imaging. I have all the everything." I said, "The '90s are kind of coming back."

Tim Fulton 43:35Right.

Drew Hanson 43:37W- can I have that? Can I have Sunday Night '90s? And they're like, "I don't know. What the fuck do we care?"

Tim Fulton 43:42What, like, at the station, or...?

Drew Hanson 43:43Yeah, like, uh, yeah, 'cause the radio station, that was a big thing. Dave Robins and the, and the station, they trademarked everything whenever they had a, a hit show.

Tim Fulton 43:51Okay.

Drew Hanson 43:51That's why whenever somebody tried to come at him, like Friday Night '80s, how monstrous that was.

Tim Fulton 43:56Right.

Drew Hanson 43:56When Star 107.9, all '80s all the time, came on the air-

Tim Fulton 44:00Cease and desist

Drew Hanson 44:01... they tried, they tried to do a Friday... No, no, no, not this station.

Tim Fulton 44:04Okay.

Drew Hanson 44:04They just couldn't say Friday Night '80s.

Tim Fulton 44:05Got it.

Drew Hanson 44:06They could say the '80s on Friday or whatever.

Tim Fulton 44:08Right.

Drew Hanson 44:08But they could not say the words Friday Night '80s, you know, subsequently or-

Tim Fulton 44:12'Cause they paid the hundred bucks-

Drew Hanson 44:13... whatever, because-

Tim Fulton 44:13... because, you know, get-

Drew Hanson 44:14... WNCI, you know, I don't think they do things like that anymore.

Tim Fulton 44:17Right.

Drew Hanson 44:17Maybe iHeartRadio does, but-

Tim Fulton 44:19Right

Drew Hanson 44:19... yeah, Dave Robins would, would go, "That's a great idea, and we're gonna trademark it." Like, I'm surprised Drew Hanson didn't end up getting trademarked. I mean, big sur-

Tim Fulton 44:26Your name, right

Drew Hanson 44:27... big sur- big surprise.

Tim Fulton 44:28Is that your legal name?

Drew Hanson 44:29Eh, it's not, eh.

Tim Fulton 44:30It's not your legal name.

Drew Hanson 44:31Let's say I'm married to it.

Tim Fulton 44:33Well, there, but the, I mean, there's a lot of f- I don't... I think there is one on-air talent at City 102.5 that's using their real name. Yeah, like, I mean, it's just not done.

Drew Hanson 44:44Yeah. It, well, it is, and it isn't. It is, but it i- yeah. I, I don't know. Whatever.

Tim Fulton 44:48Okay.

Drew Hanson 44:49But yeah, they, it didn't get trademarked is, is the good news. So they gave me Sunday Night '90s, and I started doing it in Chicago. Well, it didn't really land in Chicago, 'cause nobody knew me from that show.

Tim Fulton 44:58Okay.

Drew Hanson 44:58So there was no, like, nostalgia feels with it, like-

Tim Fulton 45:01Okay

Drew Hanson 45:01... or whatever. And I'm not getting nostalgia feels with it now, because everybody I'm entertaining with it is 21

Tim Fulton 45:07Okay

Drew Hanson 45:07... 22 years old, 'cause I'm at a campus bar. I mean-

Tim Fulton 45:09So are you playing music? What are you doing?

Drew Hanson 45:11I'm doing videos.

Tim Fulton 45:12Okay.

Drew Hanson 45:12I'm doing videos along with pop culture clips-

Tim Fulton 45:15Okay

Drew Hanson 45:15... from the '90s, like little snippets.

Tim Fulton 45:17And are you, like, talking them through it? Or do you-

Drew Hanson 45:19No.

Tim Fulton 45:19Okay.

Drew Hanson 45:20No, no, no, no, no. So what I'll do is-

Tim Fulton 45:21It's just sort of in the background.

Drew Hanson 45:22Yeah. It's, so I advertise it as, obviously, Sunday Night '90s, and then it's '90s, uh, ish until about 12 o'clock, all '90s music videos.

Tim Fulton 45:32Okay.

Drew Hanson 45:32They're all videos. So then I'll occasionally throw in, like, I'll stop for a commercial break, and I'll play the Cindy Crawford commercial when she's going to get the Pepsi.

Tim Fulton 45:39Cute. Okay.

Drew Hanson 45:40So, and then I'll come back, and then blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And now a word from our sponsor, and, you know, play a '90s commercial or the... And the, uh, surprisingly, a lot of these you can rip off of YouTube, but I found-

Tim Fulton 45:50Right

Drew Hanson 45:50... I found a service that had really good quality versions of-

Tim Fulton 45:53Okay

Drew Hanson 45:53... of all these things. So then, you know, you've got f- you know, Friends and Seinfeld-

Tim Fulton 45:57Right

Drew Hanson 45:57... little, little snippets you'll throw in between a song here and there or whatever.

Tim Fulton 45:59And people love that stuff, right?

Drew Hanson 46:01They do, yeah. But this is more the early crowd, 'cause then they, like 12 o'clock, when it's popping, you know, I can't stop down and do that, or people will boo the crap out of me.

Tim Fulton 46:09Right.

Drew Hanson 46:10The music's gotta keep going at that point.

Tim Fulton 46:11Absolutely, right.

Drew Hanson 46:11But, uh, the, I'm mixing the videos too, so the, I've, there's got six, seven or eight different screens where we're doing the videos on. And then, you know, once I started getting into videos and things like that, I'm going, "All right." I basically am only gonna DJ weddings now. So I'll just DJ weddings, and then everything else is gonna be concept-based, and videos or trivia or-

Tim Fulton 46:29Yeah

Drew Hanson 46:30... you know, whatever else.

Tim Fulton 46:31That's cool. That's very cool.

Drew Hanson 46:32So it's, it's, it's getting off the, the ground with it locally. I don't know.

Tim Fulton 46:37Do you have sort of a w- like, a home on the web, like drewHanson.com?

Drew Hanson 46:41DJdrewHanson.com is for weddings.

Tim Fulton 46:44Okay.

Drew Hanson 46:44Uh, drewHanson.net is going to be the hub where it links to every single concept and every single archa- archive that I've ever done.

Tim Fulton 46:54Right.

Drew Hanson 46:54I'm going to release an anthology of every single radio show, every single-

Tim Fulton 46:58That's awesome

Drew Hanson 46:58... I'm gonna put that out.

Tim Fulton 46:59Do you know Adam Contras?

Drew Hanson 47:00No.

Tim Fulton 47:01So he at least is credited, I think it was Wired Magazine just credited him with starting the first vlog, video blog. He's a City 10- 102.5 guy.

Drew Hanson 47:10Oh, really?

Tim Fulton 47:11He owns a totally souped-up DeLorean. He's out in LA now. I think Four TVs is the name of his vlog, but-

Drew Hanson 47:18I like that name

Tim Fulton 47:19... it's funny that you're putting it all out there. That's great.

Drew Hanson 47:22Yeah, yeah. So I'm, I'm trying to launch a one-stop shop, because I am dif- you know, going into all these other different projects and things like that, and-

Tim Fulton 47:31Well, and you wanna be able to just say one place of like-

Drew Hanson 47:33Yeah, just tell people one place

Tim Fulton 47:33... drewHanson.net. There's the link for the DJ stuff if you want. There's a link for the trivia stuff. There's the, you know, back archive of the stuff that you've done and-

Drew Hanson 47:42D- D-List Famous for marinara sauce.

Tim Fulton 47:45I don't know what that reference is, but-

Drew Hanson 47:46That's I, I have my own marinara sauce.

Tim Fulton 47:49You do?

Drew Hanson 47:50Yes.

Tim Fulton 47:50Still?

Drew Hanson 47:51Yeah.

Tim Fulton 47:51Is it delicious?

Drew Hanson 47:52It's pretty good.

Tim Fulton 47:53Okay.

Drew Hanson 47:53It's pretty good, and I sell it at-

Tim Fulton 47:55And you get D-List Famous. That's fantastic.

Drew Hanson 47:59DListFamous.com, but it's not up yet, so don't go to that site.

Tim Fulton 48:02We'll link to it later.

Drew Hanson 48:02But go, but go to that site. If you're listening to this later, go to that site.

Tim Fulton 48:06Drew, thank you so much for your time tonight.

Drew Hanson 48:07Thank you for letting me come corrupt your such nice, professional-sounding podcast

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