
North (Market) Graveyard
In the land surrounding the North Market, there are bodies. “Any time you stick a shovel in the ground out there, you’re gonna find somebody,” says one expert. As developers prepare to erect the 31-story Merchant Building, Columbus Underground reporter Jesse Bethea has been covering the removal of remains from what was once the North Graveyard, a site that pre-dates Columbus. Today, we discuss what is happening at the site, the work that should have been done 150 years ago, and the opportunity that Columbus has to look back at its history.
Shownotes
- “Archeologists Unearthed 40 Graves at North Market in 2022”
- “Come Get Your Dead: The Long History of Excavations at the Old North Graveyard”
- North Market
- Lawhon and Associates
- Rockbridge
- Merchant Building
- State Historic Preservation Office
- Greenlawn Cemetery Association
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Confluence Cast, presented by Columbus Underground. We are a weekly Columbus-centric podcast focusing on the civics, lifestyle, entertainment, and people of our city. I'm your host, Tim Fulton. This week: in the land surrounding the North Market, there are bodies. According to one expert, anytime you stick a shovel in the ground out there, you're gonna find somebody. As developers prepare to erect the 31-story Merchant Building, Columbus Underground reporter Jesse Bethea has been covering the removal of remains from what was once the North Graveyard, a site that predates Columbus. Today we discuss what's happening at the site, the work that should have been done 150 years ago, and the opportunity that Columbus has to look back at its history. You can get more information on what we discussed today in the show notes for this episode at theconfluencecast.com. Also, the Confluence Cast is on Patreon. Find out how to support this podcast on our website, theconfluencecast.com, or at patreon.com/confluence. The Confluence Cast is sponsored this week by the Mid-Ohio Regional Planning Commission, or MORPC, featuring stories about local and regional partners that envision and embrace innovative directions in economic prosperity, transportation, sustainability, and an inclusive Central Ohio. MORPC's transformative programming, innovative services, and public policy initiatives are designed to promote and support the vitality and growth in the region. For more information, please visit morpc.org. Enjoy the interview. Sitting down here virtually with Jesse Bethea, a freelance features reporter for Columbus Underground. Jesse recently did a story about the excavation of grave sites surrounding the North Market, on the occasion of its upcoming development, the new high-rise that's going up, the expansion of the North Market. We have known for years that there was a graveyard at one point in that location. I think what Jesse has uncovered is sort of the extent of what is there, and what has already happened up to this point. So Jesse, you can take it away and tell us what you found. Sure. Like you said, I think everybody was aware, once it was announced that they were going to build this high-rise on what is now the North Market parking lot, that one of the first orders of business was going to be removing the remains that are still under the parking lot from when it was the North Graveyard. What I learned is that, last summer, around May, June, July, the archaeological firm Lawhon & Associates, which has been hired by the city and by Rockbridge — the company that's building the Merchant Building — began excavating around the North Market. Not in the parking lot itself, but excavating the streets surrounding it. And from that excavation, they recovered at least 40 graves. But that doesn't mean that they found 40 people in those graves. And that's an important distinction. I think one way of thinking about this is to compare it to a similar excavation that occurred in 2001, also at North Market, but that was a surprise. The 2001 excavation happened because there was a sewer line that was going in, and a backhoe was digging a trench, and some arm bones started falling into that trench. And so then the crew realized, "Well, we need to get some archaeologists out here to handle this." So that was a surprise. This time, it's not a surprise. Rockbridge, the city, and Lawhon & Associates, all of them have been prepared to remove these graves before construction begins, which they're required to do under the National Historic Preservation Act. And before we get too far down the path of what has happened over the course of the last year, year and a half, can you talk to us about the history of the graveyard? Who did it initially service, and what's the progression there, up until development started happening on that site? Sure. Yeah. So the interesting thing about the North Graveyard, to me, is that it actually technically predates Columbus. It started in 1813 — that's when the land was first donated — and Columbus was not incorporated until 1816. So basically, as long as there's been a Columbus, people have been buried there in that plot. And it started just sort of barely an acre of land, which is pretty much exactly the location that the North Market is on right now. And then over time, it expanded to be almost 11 acres. And we sort of think about North Graveyard now — at least it seems to me that we think of it as, "That's the land that the North Market is on right now." And that's true, but it's actually much bigger than that. It's also encompassing land that has the Hilton, and the Agave & Rye, and a bunch of other buildings that we see all the time. All of that was in North Graveyard. It was enormous. It's estimated that it's possible that almost 1,000 people were buried there. So it was the main graveyard for the city for like 30 years. So eventually, what happened was, there were a couple of different pressures occurring at the same time. One of them was just strictly development — this was a very open plot of land, and a lot of people wanted to use it for various different purposes, especially the railroads, because the Union Depot was right across High Street from the graveyard, where the convention center is today. And so the railroads wanted to be able to run rail lines through the cemetery to get to Union Depot. The other thing that was happening was this sort of national movement called the rural cemetery movement. And the idea behind that was that graveyards should not be in the middle of cities, they should be out in the country, they should be more like public parks, they should be places that you want to go and have a picnic with the family. And for that reason, the Green Lawn Cemetery Association was started, and they created Green Lawn Cemetery across the river to the south. So after that happened, you have a lot of editorials in like the Ohio State Journal and some other newspapers of the time saying, "Well, now that we have Green Lawn, we really shouldn't be using the North Graveyard anymore, because it's in the middle of the city, it's unsanitary, it's unsightly." There were some editorials that were saying, like, "It's bad for our reputation. People come here, and they get off the train right across from a cemetery, and that's not what we want to advertise about Columbus." And this was about the late 1860s. Then in the early 1870s — 1872 — a railroad company bought the southernmost portion of the cemetery, so that they could run their rail line across High Street to Union Station. In order to do that, they had to remove the graves that were there in that southern section of the cemetery. I think in like two months, they exhumed 391 graves. So that's a lot in a very short amount of time. And so it's likely that they missed a few people, a few parts of people. And also, one thing to keep in mind is that, when they were doing this, the newspapers were running ads from the city engineer saying, "If you have relatives buried here, come and tell us where they are, so that we can move them to Green Lawn." But as Crystal Horrocks, from the State Historic Preservation Office, told me — she referred to that as the "come get your dead" ad. Like, "Come get your dead." But if you couldn't read, or if you didn't live in Columbus anymore, or you just didn't read the Columbus Dispatch, then you didn't know that your loved ones were about to be moved. You couldn't come and show the city officials where your child's grave was, or whatever.
And do we have an understanding — were these unmarked graves? Was it just numbered plots? A lot of it. So there were tombstones, but a lot of them had been knocked over or fallen apart. That's one of the reasons that a lot of people in the city at the time kind of thought of it as being an eyesore, because it wasn't looking great. And a lot of them had been vandalized. There had been grave-robbing going on. Bandits would sort of hide behind tombstones and go out and rob people on High Street — that would happen occasionally. It was not a great part of town, it was kind of an eyesore. And also, there was a section that was devoted to people who couldn't afford to be buried, and they were buried at the expense of the city. And if they had markers, they probably didn't have very well-kept ones. And so, the sexton had to be brought out of retirement — because by this time, nobody was allowed to be buried there anymore, they'd stopped burials in the 1860s because it was so overcrowded — so they brought the sexton out of retirement to go around and point to depressions in the ground, to say, "I think I buried someone there. I think I buried someone over there." So that was sort of how they had to do it. And when you say "sexton," what is that? The sexton was a city position. He was appointed by the city to sort of manage the graveyard, he was overseeing it. He could hire deputies as well, provide security, upkeep, and also bury people.
Well, you learn something new every day. Right. Yeah, he was paid, like — it would be like $1.50 for an adult and $1 for a child, or something to that effect. It certainly wasn't much to our mind, but back in the 1800s, that could be a little too much money for people. We're not going to get into how that might incentivize his work. So... Exactly. Yes. There are certainly ways that it might have, though.
Talk us through how you came to be interested in this story. I'd always known, since I moved to Columbus about 10 years ago — you sort of hear about this, that "Oh, right, there are still graves under North Market. And the reason is because they were all supposed to be moved in the 1800s, and they weren't, and they're just sort of there." But my thought was always, "Well, it's probably not that many, it's maybe like one or two." And then, of course, when they announced that they were going to build the Merchant Building, everyone acknowledged, "Well, they're gonna have to clear out the graves from underneath the parking lot." But I kind of put it out of my mind and thought, "Okay, well, they'll get to it eventually, or there'll be an announcement about it." But there really was no announcement. And then this fall, I started hearing that the work had already started, that they had begun digging up the streets around North Market. And then I started hearing that — the first number I heard was 20 individuals had been dug up, and that was way more than I expected. And then it turned out to be even more than that. And so then I started looking into it and contacting Lawhon & Associates. And I finally got to interview Justin Zinke, who is the archaeologist leading the project. And he told me that they actually excavated 40 graves. But the thing is, 40 graves doesn't mean that 40 people were in those graves. He actually predicts that he has more than 40 individuals that he's excavated. These are literally just the plots, the individual plots that he dug up. Right. What they're looking for, when they start excavating, is something called a grave stain. A grave stain is sort of like the outline of a coffin, because a coffin is organic material, and it decomposes, along with the flesh and fluids of the person that's buried in it. All of that organic material stains the ground sort of black. So you can dig up the street, after you've removed the concrete and the overburden and all that, and then they start to see these rectangles of darker soil than the soil around it. And that tells them, "Okay, somebody at some point was buried there." The thing is, just because you can say, "Okay, someone was buried there," it doesn't mean they're still buried there. Because, again, a lot of these people were exhumed in the 1870s and '80s. So they have to check each and every one. Some of those graves are completely empty. Some of them have sort of a jumble of bones, and that would indicate that these are graves that were exhumed back in the 19th century, but they didn't do a very good job, and they left a bunch of those people behind, or there are bones from the grave next to it that were accidentally dumped in that grave. And that's why it's hard to determine how many individuals have actually been recovered. From the 40 graves, it's probably more than 40.
So is this a situation where it's not necessarily that there was a cover-up of these bodies being exhumed, it just really wasn't talked about widely, hence it didn't really make the news? No. And I'm sure there's a bit of not wanting to sensationalize any of it. And also, wanting to have some propriety about it, because these are human beings, these are human remains that are being removed. And the archaeologists are very aware and concerned with the ethics of what they're doing, and making sure that the people they're exhuming are being respected. One thing Justin Zinke told me, when I talked to him, is he tells his crew, "The last time anybody saw these people, they were being put in the ground by their loved ones. You're the first person to see them since their loved ones put them in the ground. So make sure you have some respect about that." If you go out there right now, there's fencing up, there's privacy fencing, they have big tents up over the shafts where they're digging, and that is to maintain the privacy of the people who are buried there. And so this is happening right now. So the excavations that happened in the summer were only occurring around the edges of North Market, along the streets, and that was a city project. And that's also a distinction — the city has to put in some utilities stuff, to prepare the infrastructure for Rockbridge to begin their construction. Now, what's happened is, they have started moving into the parking lot. The North Market parking lot was closed in June, and pretty much immediately after that, they began tearing up the concrete and the overburden. And now the archaeologists are out there, marking those grave stains, and are beginning their excavations and seeing what's inside.
And is anybody willing to talk to you at this point about, like, "Here's what we found up to this point, here's the progress that we're making, here's how much more we think we may find"? I wouldn't say they're unwilling. I haven't been able to talk to them about that yet. I hope to. Okay. Well, that'll be a follow-up. So do you have a sense, then, of what's to come about that location? How long this may take, or how much they may find? Or is that literally a question for them? It is, and it's also — people can only make estimations about it. I've never worked on an archaeological dig before, but I imagine they are as meticulous as possible, especially, again, after centuries of people digging up these graves and leaving pieces behind. I don't think they want to leave any pieces behind. I think their goal is to make sure that they get all of it, or as much of it as possible, and get as many of these people to Green Lawn, with their friends and family, as possible. So I think they're going to take the time they need to do that. As for what they're going to find, that's also difficult to predict. Extrapolating from what was found in 2001, there are certain artifacts they might discover, but they're not going to be — the coffins have pretty much deteriorated. I think in 2001, they found a number of buttons. And some of that can be used to sort of date when people were put in the ground — buttons that were not made before this date, or that stopped being made after such a date, that can kind of help place them in time. But all of that — well, not the artifacts, but the bones — have to undergo osteological analysis, that will be conducted by Dr. Cheryl Johnston, who also worked on the 2001 excavations. I look forward to interviewing her as well, at some point. But once those bones have been analyzed, they will be taken to Green Lawn, where there is a specific burial plot ready for them. That's actually been ready since the 1800s — it was purchased by the county back then for this purpose. And then they'll be buried there. I talked to Randy Rogers of the Green Lawn Cemetery Association, and he said that anytime there's digging or excavations at North Market, his organization is sort of ready and waiting for reinterment of these bones.
Okay. As you've been researching this story, you're both looking at, first of all, how these folks got here in the first place, why they were assigned to move to Green Lawn, and the success — or lack of success, frankly — with that process, that we are still dealing with today. Can you talk a little bit about what you've discovered in that history, in that background research? Sure. Well, I think that one thing to remember is that, when these initial exhumations were happening back in the 1870s and '80s, we didn't really have archaeology the way we understand it now. So there wasn't a professional team of archaeologists out there, the way there is now, making sure that everything is recovered and everything is being treated with respect. It was really a sort of industrial process. They shoveled bones into shoe boxes and got them over to Green Lawn as fast as possible, because they had to clear the land in order to sell it for properties, and also for the railroads. And so, once they were done doing that, in the 1870s, it sort of got the ball rolling, and everybody was in agreement that, "Well, we should go ahead and just clear the rest of it, we should just remove all of these graves and move them to Green Lawn." And that process was finished in 1881. But pretty much immediately after that, starting in 1885, whenever there was a construction crew digging around North Market, they would dig up bones. That happened in 1885, it happened in 1892, it happened in 1906 — they would put telephone lines down, and they would dig up a skull. And then again, and, you know, all the way up to 2001. So, again, every time anyone stuck a shovel in the ground out there, they've ended up finding somebody. It's a sort of bittersweet moment, that now the city will be able to finally attempt to exhume all of the bodies and bring them to Green Lawn, like they should have done 150 years ago. I don't want to say that that's it — I don't want to say that they're going to get all of them, because, when I was talking to Randy Rogers from the Green Lawn Cemetery Association, I sort of asked him how he felt about this being the end of it, the end of the North Graveyard. And he said he really doesn't think it's going to be the end. He said that archaeologists do the best work that they can, these archaeologists are going to do the best work that they can, but it's really hard to say that you're going to get everything. And he said it's easy to see a future where there's more development down the line, and they start digging, and they hit something and say, "We've got to call the archaeologists back." So it's really hard to say that this is the final chapter of the North Graveyard, but it certainly feels like the beginning of the final chapter. And so where does your reporting take you now? Is it sort of the follow-up, to talk to folks that were there with the excavation last year, and talk through how the process is happening now? I guess this is more of a process and journalistic question. You said earlier, sort of in a vague way, "No one's not talking to me." But is it a "nobody's really interested in talking about this, because it doesn't look great that they have to do this, but this is sort of the cost of progress"? What's been your experience there? Sure. I'm going to preface this by saying I can't assume anybody's motive for anything. But, having said that, we all know this is a sensitive topic. There's no way it's not going to be a sensitive topic — these are human remains. This is a disgrace. It's a disgrace, not for anybody who's still alive, but it's disgraceful that these earliest citizens of Columbus were treated this way back in the 1800s. And everybody acknowledges that and understands it, but it's still kind of awkward to talk about. So I think that's part of it. I think also, you know, we're talking about science, and scientists do not like to talk about something unless they have all of the evidence and are able to draw the best conclusions they can. So I think that might be part of it as well — they want to do all the work first, do all the study and the research first, and then say something on the record about it. Which I totally understand, having interviewed scientists before. They can, with good reason, be very suspicious of reporters, because reporters can get stuff wrong, and science is a very tricky subject to get right. So I think there's some of that going on. But from my perspective, what I really want to do now, what I want to know now, is what the archaeologists and the anthropologists learned from the bones about what Columbus was like. I want to know what they're finding in terms of artifacts, what they're finding in terms of — if they're able to do any DNA analysis, if they're able to figure out sort of a distribution of sex and age and race or ethnicity of the people who were left behind. But it's really hard to say how much of that will be possible, just given how long they've been under the ground. But at the same time, this is such a bigger sample size than has been attempted before at this site. Because before, archaeologists were really — this is not the best way to say it — but they were sort of nibbling around the edges. It was Spruce Street, Wall Street, sort of the edges. Now they're moving into the middle of the parking lot, where there weren't that many buildings built, the graves are probably less disturbed than they are elsewhere. And so this is going to be sort of the widest window that we get into a very specific period of history — the period from 1813 to about 1864, when these people were buried. It's going to be one of the best archaeological, historical perspectives that we can get about what Columbus was like at that time. Absolutely, I want to follow the bones to their final resting place. I want to be there, physically, when they're put into the ground. That was another thing that I learned from Randy Rogers, from the Green Lawn Cemetery Association, is that he expects there'll be some sort of public committal ceremony. And I think it'll be — I'm predicting, but I think it'll be a bittersweet moment to get to watch that happen, and to, as a city, finally put these earliest citizens of Columbus to rest after, frankly, having been disrespected for the last 150 years.
Yeah, I mean, regardless of the conversion of the graveyard, there should have been a better job done before we started parking there. And it's easy to sort of be angry about this development. It's easy to have a perspective of, like, "Wow, these developers are putting up a giant skyscraper on the bones of children and poor people." But that's been happening for 150 years. And this is actually the chance to rectify that, to sort of stop the cycle. Absolutely. Jesse, I want to give you the opportunity that I give every guest on the Confluence Cast, to say what you think Columbus is doing well, and what do you think Columbus is not doing so well? I've got to pick something for one to get to two...
Why did you come here? I came here because I met my wife. No, but that's not the only reason. The thing I like about Columbus is that there's a blank slate about it, there's a sense that you can do whatever you want. Everything I say, I know somebody would disagree with, but it feels like there's not as much gatekeeping as there might be in other places. You know, we can get mad about the fact that there's not an established scene of whatever you want to be part of, but one side effect of that is that if there's not an established scene, then there aren't established gatekeepers to keep you out of it. So there is a sense of, like, you can start, you can be, you can make whatever you want. As for what Columbus doesn't do so well — I mean, I'll pick this one, because we're here talking about this — Columbus doesn't care about its history nearly enough. There is a real sense, and it comes from all corners, not one side or the other, that Columbus was a cow town until, like, 1989, and then it just sort of sprouted out of the ground. And that's not true. The reason we think that is because there's nothing — the oldest thing left in Columbus is the Statehouse and the bodies under North Market. And, frankly, it's unfortunate, because there's a lot of interesting history to the city that nobody knows about, because we've really plastered over it. Yep. Jesse, thank you so much for your time today. Thank you.
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Tim Fulton Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Confluence Cast, presented by Columbus Underground. We are a weekly Columbus-centric podcast focusing on the civics, lifestyle, entertainment, and people of our city. I'm your host, Tim Fulton. This week: in the land surrounding the North Market, there are bodies. According to one expert, anytime you stick a shovel in the ground out there, you're gonna find somebody. As developers prepare to erect the 31-story Merchant Building, Columbus Underground reporter Jesse Bethea has been covering the removal of remains from what was once the North Graveyard, a site that predates Columbus. Today we discuss what's happening at the site, the work that should have been done 150 years ago, and the opportunity that Columbus has to look back at its history. You can get more information on what we discussed today in the show notes for this episode at theconfluencecast.com. Also, the Confluence Cast is on Patreon. Find out how to support this podcast on our website, theconfluencecast.com, or at patreon.com/confluence. The Confluence Cast is sponsored this week by the Mid-Ohio Regional Planning Commission, or MORPC, featuring stories about local and regional partners that envision and embrace innovative directions in economic prosperity, transportation, sustainability, and an inclusive Central Ohio. MORPC's transformative programming, innovative services, and public policy initiatives are designed to promote and support the vitality and growth in the region. For more information, please visit morpc.org. Enjoy the interview. Sitting down here virtually with Jesse Bethea, a freelance features reporter for Columbus Underground. Jesse recently did a story about the excavation of grave sites surrounding the North Market, on the occasion of its upcoming development, the new high-rise that's going up, the expansion of the North Market. We have known for years that there was a graveyard at one point in that location. I think what Jesse has uncovered is sort of the extent of what is there, and what has already happened up to this point. So Jesse, you can take it away and tell us what you found.
Jesse Bethea Sure. Like you said, I think everybody was aware, once it was announced that they were going to build this high-rise on what is now the North Market parking lot, that one of the first orders of business was going to be removing the remains that are still under the parking lot from when it was the North Graveyard. What I learned is that, last summer, around May, June, July, the archaeological firm Lawhon & Associates, which has been hired by the city and by Rockbridge — the company that's building the Merchant Building — began excavating around the North Market. Not in the parking lot itself, but excavating the streets surrounding it. And from that excavation, they recovered at least 40 graves. But that doesn't mean that they found 40 people in those graves. And that's an important distinction. I think one way of thinking about this is to compare it to a similar excavation that occurred in 2001, also at North Market, but that was a surprise. The 2001 excavation happened because there was a sewer line that was going in, and a backhoe was digging a trench, and some arm bones started falling into that trench. And so then the crew realized, "Well, we need to get some archaeologists out here to handle this." So that was a surprise. This time, it's not a surprise. Rockbridge, the city, and Lawhon & Associates, all of them have been prepared to remove these graves before construction begins, which they're required to do under the National Historic Preservation Act.
Tim Fulton And before we get too far down the path of what has happened over the course of the last year, year and a half, can you talk to us about the history of the graveyard? Who did it initially service, and what's the progression there, up until development started happening on that site?
Jesse Bethea Sure. Yeah. So the interesting thing about the North Graveyard, to me, is that it actually technically predates Columbus. It started in 1813 — that's when the land was first donated — and Columbus was not incorporated until 1816. So basically, as long as there's been a Columbus, people have been buried there in that plot. And it started just sort of barely an acre of land, which is pretty much exactly the location that the North Market is on right now. And then over time, it expanded to be almost 11 acres. And we sort of think about North Graveyard now — at least it seems to me that we think of it as, "That's the land that the North Market is on right now." And that's true, but it's actually much bigger than that. It's also encompassing land that has the Hilton, and the Agave & Rye, and a bunch of other buildings that we see all the time. All of that was in North Graveyard. It was enormous. It's estimated that it's possible that almost 1,000 people were buried there. So it was the main graveyard for the city for like 30 years. So eventually, what happened was, there were a couple of different pressures occurring at the same time. One of them was just strictly development — this was a very open plot of land, and a lot of people wanted to use it for various different purposes, especially the railroads, because the Union Depot was right across High Street from the graveyard, where the convention center is today. And so the railroads wanted to be able to run rail lines through the cemetery to get to Union Depot. The other thing that was happening was this sort of national movement called the rural cemetery movement. And the idea behind that was that graveyards should not be in the middle of cities, they should be out in the country, they should be more like public parks, they should be places that you want to go and have a picnic with the family. And for that reason, the Green Lawn Cemetery Association was started, and they created Green Lawn Cemetery across the river to the south. So after that happened, you have a lot of editorials in like the Ohio State Journal and some other newspapers of the time saying, "Well, now that we have Green Lawn, we really shouldn't be using the North Graveyard anymore, because it's in the middle of the city, it's unsanitary, it's unsightly." There were some editorials that were saying, like, "It's bad for our reputation. People come here, and they get off the train right across from a cemetery, and that's not what we want to advertise about Columbus." And this was about the late 1860s. Then in the early 1870s — 1872 — a railroad company bought the southernmost portion of the cemetery, so that they could run their rail line across High Street to Union Station. In order to do that, they had to remove the graves that were there in that southern section of the cemetery. I think in like two months, they exhumed 391 graves. So that's a lot in a very short amount of time. And so it's likely that they missed a few people, a few parts of people. And also, one thing to keep in mind is that, when they were doing this, the newspapers were running ads from the city engineer saying, "If you have relatives buried here, come and tell us where they are, so that we can move them to Green Lawn." But as Crystal Horrocks, from the State Historic Preservation Office, told me — she referred to that as the "come get your dead" ad. Like, "Come get your dead." But if you couldn't read, or if you didn't live in Columbus anymore, or you just didn't read the Columbus Dispatch, then you didn't know that your loved ones were about to be moved. You couldn't come and show the city officials where your child's grave was, or whatever.
Tim Fulton And do we have an understanding — were these unmarked graves? Was it just numbered plots?
Jesse Bethea A lot of it. So there were tombstones, but a lot of them had been knocked over or fallen apart. That's one of the reasons that a lot of people in the city at the time kind of thought of it as being an eyesore, because it wasn't looking great. And a lot of them had been vandalized. There had been grave-robbing going on. Bandits would sort of hide behind tombstones and go out and rob people on High Street — that would happen occasionally. It was not a great part of town, it was kind of an eyesore. And also, there was a section that was devoted to people who couldn't afford to be buried, and they were buried at the expense of the city. And if they had markers, they probably didn't have very well-kept ones. And so, the sexton had to be brought out of retirement — because by this time, nobody was allowed to be buried there anymore, they'd stopped burials in the 1860s because it was so overcrowded — so they brought the sexton out of retirement to go around and point to depressions in the ground, to say, "I think I buried someone there. I think I buried someone over there." So that was sort of how they had to do it.
Tim Fulton And when you say "sexton," what is that?
Jesse Bethea The sexton was a city position. He was appointed by the city to sort of manage the graveyard, he was overseeing it. He could hire deputies as well, provide security, upkeep, and also bury people.
Tim Fulton Well, you learn something new every day.
Jesse Bethea Right. Yeah, he was paid, like — it would be like $1.50 for an adult and $1 for a child, or something to that effect. It certainly wasn't much to our mind, but back in the 1800s, that could be a little too much money for people.
Tim Fulton We're not going to get into how that might incentivize his work. So...
Jesse Bethea Exactly. Yes. There are certainly ways that it might have, though.
Tim Fulton Talk us through how you came to be interested in this story.
Jesse Bethea I'd always known, since I moved to Columbus about 10 years ago — you sort of hear about this, that "Oh, right, there are still graves under North Market. And the reason is because they were all supposed to be moved in the 1800s, and they weren't, and they're just sort of there." But my thought was always, "Well, it's probably not that many, it's maybe like one or two." And then, of course, when they announced that they were going to build the Merchant Building, everyone acknowledged, "Well, they're gonna have to clear out the graves from underneath the parking lot." But I kind of put it out of my mind and thought, "Okay, well, they'll get to it eventually, or there'll be an announcement about it." But there really was no announcement. And then this fall, I started hearing that the work had already started, that they had begun digging up the streets around North Market. And then I started hearing that — the first number I heard was 20 individuals had been dug up, and that was way more than I expected. And then it turned out to be even more than that. And so then I started looking into it and contacting Lawhon & Associates. And I finally got to interview Justin Zinke, who is the archaeologist leading the project. And he told me that they actually excavated 40 graves. But the thing is, 40 graves doesn't mean that 40 people were in those graves. He actually predicts that he has more than 40 individuals that he's excavated.
Tim Fulton These are literally just the plots, the individual plots that he dug up.
Jesse Bethea Right. What they're looking for, when they start excavating, is something called a grave stain. A grave stain is sort of like the outline of a coffin, because a coffin is organic material, and it decomposes, along with the flesh and fluids of the person that's buried in it. All of that organic material stains the ground sort of black. So you can dig up the street, after you've removed the concrete and the overburden and all that, and then they start to see these rectangles of darker soil than the soil around it. And that tells them, "Okay, somebody at some point was buried there." The thing is, just because you can say, "Okay, someone was buried there," it doesn't mean they're still buried there. Because, again, a lot of these people were exhumed in the 1870s and '80s. So they have to check each and every one. Some of those graves are completely empty. Some of them have sort of a jumble of bones, and that would indicate that these are graves that were exhumed back in the 19th century, but they didn't do a very good job, and they left a bunch of those people behind, or there are bones from the grave next to it that were accidentally dumped in that grave. And that's why it's hard to determine how many individuals have actually been recovered. From the 40 graves, it's probably more than 40.
Tim Fulton So is this a situation where it's not necessarily that there was a cover-up of these bodies being exhumed, it just really wasn't talked about widely, hence it didn't really make the news?
Jesse Bethea No. And I'm sure there's a bit of not wanting to sensationalize any of it. And also, wanting to have some propriety about it, because these are human beings, these are human remains that are being removed. And the archaeologists are very aware and concerned with the ethics of what they're doing, and making sure that the people they're exhuming are being respected. One thing Justin Zinke told me, when I talked to him, is he tells his crew, "The last time anybody saw these people, they were being put in the ground by their loved ones. You're the first person to see them since their loved ones put them in the ground. So make sure you have some respect about that." If you go out there right now, there's fencing up, there's privacy fencing, they have big tents up over the shafts where they're digging, and that is to maintain the privacy of the people who are buried there.
Tim Fulton And so this is happening right now.
Jesse Bethea So the excavations that happened in the summer were only occurring around the edges of North Market, along the streets, and that was a city project. And that's also a distinction — the city has to put in some utilities stuff, to prepare the infrastructure for Rockbridge to begin their construction. Now, what's happened is, they have started moving into the parking lot. The North Market parking lot was closed in June, and pretty much immediately after that, they began tearing up the concrete and the overburden. And now the archaeologists are out there, marking those grave stains, and are beginning their excavations and seeing what's inside.
Tim Fulton And is anybody willing to talk to you at this point about, like, "Here's what we found up to this point, here's the progress that we're making, here's how much more we think we may find"?
Jesse Bethea I wouldn't say they're unwilling. I haven't been able to talk to them about that yet. I hope to.
Tim Fulton Okay. Well, that'll be a follow-up. So do you have a sense, then, of what's to come about that location? How long this may take, or how much they may find? Or is that literally a question for them?
Jesse Bethea It is, and it's also — people can only make estimations about it. I've never worked on an archaeological dig before, but I imagine they are as meticulous as possible, especially, again, after centuries of people digging up these graves and leaving pieces behind. I don't think they want to leave any pieces behind. I think their goal is to make sure that they get all of it, or as much of it as possible, and get as many of these people to Green Lawn, with their friends and family, as possible. So I think they're going to take the time they need to do that. As for what they're going to find, that's also difficult to predict. Extrapolating from what was found in 2001, there are certain artifacts they might discover, but they're not going to be — the coffins have pretty much deteriorated. I think in 2001, they found a number of buttons. And some of that can be used to sort of date when people were put in the ground — buttons that were not made before this date, or that stopped being made after such a date, that can kind of help place them in time. But all of that — well, not the artifacts, but the bones — have to undergo osteological analysis, that will be conducted by Dr. Cheryl Johnston, who also worked on the 2001 excavations. I look forward to interviewing her as well, at some point. But once those bones have been analyzed, they will be taken to Green Lawn, where there is a specific burial plot ready for them. That's actually been ready since the 1800s — it was purchased by the county back then for this purpose. And then they'll be buried there. I talked to Randy Rogers of the Green Lawn Cemetery Association, and he said that anytime there's digging or excavations at North Market, his organization is sort of ready and waiting for reinterment of these bones.
Tim Fulton Okay. As you've been researching this story, you're both looking at, first of all, how these folks got here in the first place, why they were assigned to move to Green Lawn, and the success — or lack of success, frankly — with that process, that we are still dealing with today. Can you talk a little bit about what you've discovered in that history, in that background research?
Jesse Bethea Sure. Well, I think that one thing to remember is that, when these initial exhumations were happening back in the 1870s and '80s, we didn't really have archaeology the way we understand it now. So there wasn't a professional team of archaeologists out there, the way there is now, making sure that everything is recovered and everything is being treated with respect. It was really a sort of industrial process. They shoveled bones into shoe boxes and got them over to Green Lawn as fast as possible, because they had to clear the land in order to sell it for properties, and also for the railroads. And so, once they were done doing that, in the 1870s, it sort of got the ball rolling, and everybody was in agreement that, "Well, we should go ahead and just clear the rest of it, we should just remove all of these graves and move them to Green Lawn." And that process was finished in 1881. But pretty much immediately after that, starting in 1885, whenever there was a construction crew digging around North Market, they would dig up bones. That happened in 1885, it happened in 1892, it happened in 1906 — they would put telephone lines down, and they would dig up a skull. And then again, and, you know, all the way up to 2001. So, again, every time anyone stuck a shovel in the ground out there, they've ended up finding somebody. It's a sort of bittersweet moment, that now the city will be able to finally attempt to exhume all of the bodies and bring them to Green Lawn, like they should have done 150 years ago. I don't want to say that that's it — I don't want to say that they're going to get all of them, because, when I was talking to Randy Rogers from the Green Lawn Cemetery Association, I sort of asked him how he felt about this being the end of it, the end of the North Graveyard. And he said he really doesn't think it's going to be the end. He said that archaeologists do the best work that they can, these archaeologists are going to do the best work that they can, but it's really hard to say that you're going to get everything. And he said it's easy to see a future where there's more development down the line, and they start digging, and they hit something and say, "We've got to call the archaeologists back." So it's really hard to say that this is the final chapter of the North Graveyard, but it certainly feels like the beginning of the final chapter.
Tim Fulton And so where does your reporting take you now? Is it sort of the follow-up, to talk to folks that were there with the excavation last year, and talk through how the process is happening now? I guess this is more of a process and journalistic question. You said earlier, sort of in a vague way, "No one's not talking to me." But is it a "nobody's really interested in talking about this, because it doesn't look great that they have to do this, but this is sort of the cost of progress"? What's been your experience there?
Jesse Bethea Sure. I'm going to preface this by saying I can't assume anybody's motive for anything. But, having said that, we all know this is a sensitive topic. There's no way it's not going to be a sensitive topic — these are human remains. This is a disgrace. It's a disgrace, not for anybody who's still alive, but it's disgraceful that these earliest citizens of Columbus were treated this way back in the 1800s. And everybody acknowledges that and understands it, but it's still kind of awkward to talk about. So I think that's part of it. I think also, you know, we're talking about science, and scientists do not like to talk about something unless they have all of the evidence and are able to draw the best conclusions they can. So I think that might be part of it as well — they want to do all the work first, do all the study and the research first, and then say something on the record about it. Which I totally understand, having interviewed scientists before. They can, with good reason, be very suspicious of reporters, because reporters can get stuff wrong, and science is a very tricky subject to get right. So I think there's some of that going on. But from my perspective, what I really want to do now, what I want to know now, is what the archaeologists and the anthropologists learned from the bones about what Columbus was like. I want to know what they're finding in terms of artifacts, what they're finding in terms of — if they're able to do any DNA analysis, if they're able to figure out sort of a distribution of sex and age and race or ethnicity of the people who were left behind. But it's really hard to say how much of that will be possible, just given how long they've been under the ground. But at the same time, this is such a bigger sample size than has been attempted before at this site. Because before, archaeologists were really — this is not the best way to say it — but they were sort of nibbling around the edges. It was Spruce Street, Wall Street, sort of the edges. Now they're moving into the middle of the parking lot, where there weren't that many buildings built, the graves are probably less disturbed than they are elsewhere. And so this is going to be sort of the widest window that we get into a very specific period of history — the period from 1813 to about 1864, when these people were buried. It's going to be one of the best archaeological, historical perspectives that we can get about what Columbus was like at that time. Absolutely, I want to follow the bones to their final resting place. I want to be there, physically, when they're put into the ground. That was another thing that I learned from Randy Rogers, from the Green Lawn Cemetery Association, is that he expects there'll be some sort of public committal ceremony. And I think it'll be — I'm predicting, but I think it'll be a bittersweet moment to get to watch that happen, and to, as a city, finally put these earliest citizens of Columbus to rest after, frankly, having been disrespected for the last 150 years.
Tim Fulton Yeah, I mean, regardless of the conversion of the graveyard, there should have been a better job done before we started parking there.
Jesse Bethea And it's easy to sort of be angry about this development. It's easy to have a perspective of, like, "Wow, these developers are putting up a giant skyscraper on the bones of children and poor people." But that's been happening for 150 years. And this is actually the chance to rectify that, to sort of stop the cycle.
Tim Fulton Absolutely. Jesse, I want to give you the opportunity that I give every guest on the Confluence Cast, to say what you think Columbus is doing well, and what do you think Columbus is not doing so well?
Jesse Bethea I've got to pick something for one to get to two...
Tim Fulton Why did you come here?
Jesse Bethea I came here because I met my wife. No, but that's not the only reason. The thing I like about Columbus is that there's a blank slate about it, there's a sense that you can do whatever you want. Everything I say, I know somebody would disagree with, but it feels like there's not as much gatekeeping as there might be in other places. You know, we can get mad about the fact that there's not an established scene of whatever you want to be part of, but one side effect of that is that if there's not an established scene, then there aren't established gatekeepers to keep you out of it. So there is a sense of, like, you can start, you can be, you can make whatever you want. As for what Columbus doesn't do so well — I mean, I'll pick this one, because we're here talking about this — Columbus doesn't care about its history nearly enough. There is a real sense, and it comes from all corners, not one side or the other, that Columbus was a cow town until, like, 1989, and then it just sort of sprouted out of the ground. And that's not true. The reason we think that is because there's nothing — the oldest thing left in Columbus is the Statehouse and the bodies under North Market. And, frankly, it's unfortunate, because there's a lot of interesting history to the city that nobody knows about, because we've really plastered over it.
Tim Fulton Yep. Jesse, thank you so much for your time today.
Jesse Bethea Thank you.
Tim Fulton Thank you for listening to the Confluence Cast, presented by Columbus Underground. Again, you can get more information on what we discussed today in the show notes for this episode at theconfluencecast.com. Please rate, subscribe, share this episode of the Confluence Cast with your friends, family, contacts, enemies, your favorite archaeologist. If you're interested in sponsoring the Confluence Cast, get in touch with us. We can be reached by email at info@theconfluencecast.com. Our theme music was composed by Benji Robinson. Our producer is Phil Cogley. I'm your host, Tim Fulton. Have a great week.
